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From: Charles H Sauer <sauer@technologists.com>
To: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org
Subject: Re: [TUHS] If not Linux, then what?
Date: Wed, 28 Aug 2019 09:22:34 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <b4f60c79-59ff-bf7a-9f83-819da722919a@technologists.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAE49LGnEKsH3t-+caazKAYoWtjXszF7TRb_7DXtqNAybtfvunQ@mail.gmail.com>

possible components of answer regarding animation/CGI:
o SGI/MIPS/IRIX would have fared better/longer
o Jobs would have pushed Pixar towards Mach
o P4+NVIDIA would still have been disruptive 
(https://secure2.linuxjournal.com/ljarchive/LJ/099/6011s1.html)
o Gates would have done more

Windows had usable TCP/IP, at least starting with Windows 3, from 
Trumpet, Chameleon and others. I found/find the Microsoft 32 bit 
implementation preferable running Mosaic and Netscape, but had to do 
some work with 16 bit Trumpet a few years ago for a client that needed 
me to make some things work in DOS outside of Win 3.1.

On 8/28/2019 4:36 AM, Angus Robinson wrote:
...
> I think another question would be, if Linux was never invented, what 
> technologies would never have happened. For instance, a bunch of 
> animation movies where made with Linux farms, Planes use Linux within 
> their inbuilt entertainment systems, the list goes on (I think NASA uses 
> linux on their ISS). How many people would be interested in 
> technology/IT sector, how many companies would have started (ie: RedHat, 
> Thwat,etc), What features/addons would not have been added to other 
> operating systems (Windows tcp/ip)? Would docker even be a thing, hyper-v ?
> 
> I know one thing....... All the old technology would be alot more and 
> schools would have alot more vunerabilites on their PC's.
> 
> 
> 
> On Tue, Aug 27, 2019 at 1:13 AM Arthur Krewat <krewat@kilonet.net 
> <mailto:krewat@kilonet.net>> wrote:
> 
>     https://linux.slashdot.org/story/19/08/26/0051234/celebrating-the-28th-anniversary-of-the-linux-kernel
> 
>     Leaving licensing and copyright issues out of this mental exercise,
>     what
>     would we have now if it wasn't for Linux? Not what you'd WANT it to be,
>     although that can add to the discussion, but what WOULD it be?
> 
>     I'm not asking as a proponent of Linux. If anything, I was dragged
>     kicking and screaming into the current day and have begrudgingly ceded
>     my server space to Linux.
> 
>     But if not for Linux, would it be BSD? A System V variant? Or (the
>     horror) Windows NT?
> 
>     I do understand that this has been discussed on the list before. I
>     think, however, it would make a good late-summer exercise. Or late
>     winter depending on where you are :)
> 
>     art k.
> 
> 

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2019-08-28 14:22 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 96+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-08-26 23:13 Arthur Krewat
2019-08-26 23:27 ` Warner Losh
2019-08-26 23:37   ` Larry McVoy
2019-08-26 23:56   ` William Pechter
2019-08-27  0:19     ` Arthur Krewat
2019-08-27  0:30       ` Larry McVoy
2019-08-27  0:58         ` Rob Pike
2019-08-27  1:06           ` Clem Cole
2019-08-27  2:53           ` Larry McVoy
2019-08-27  9:47             ` Rob Pike
2019-08-27  7:47           ` arnold
2019-08-27 16:05           ` [TUHS] Running v10 Angelo Papenhoff
2019-08-27 16:27             ` Henry Bent
2019-08-28  4:22               ` Jason Stevens
2019-08-28  7:34                 ` Angelo Papenhoff
2019-08-28 16:46                   ` Henry Bent
2019-08-27  0:59         ` [TUHS] If not Linux, then what? Arthur Krewat
2019-08-27  1:26           ` Dan Cross
2019-08-27  2:45             ` Larry McVoy
2019-08-27  3:14               ` Arthur Krewat
2019-08-27 14:55                 ` Larry McVoy
2019-08-27 22:30                   ` George Michaelson
2019-08-27 22:40                     ` Larry McVoy
2019-08-27 22:46                       ` George Michaelson
2019-08-27 22:59                         ` [TUHS] [SPAM] " Larry McVoy
2019-08-27 23:10                           ` [TUHS] " Clem Cole
2019-08-28  0:07                             ` George Michaelson
2019-08-28  3:22                           ` [TUHS] [SPAM] " Rob Pike
2019-08-28  3:25                             ` Rob Pike
2019-08-28  4:05                             ` Larry McVoy
2019-08-28 13:52                               ` Clem Cole
2019-08-28 14:31                                 ` [TUHS] " Larry McVoy
2019-08-28 14:57                                   ` Clem Cole
2019-08-28  6:19                         ` Wesley Parish
2019-08-28  6:30                           ` Peter Jeremy
2019-08-28 11:05                             ` Jason Stevens
2019-08-28 11:11                               ` Arrigo Triulzi
2019-08-28 14:04                               ` Clem Cole
2019-08-28 16:34                                 ` Henry Bent
2019-08-28 17:32                                   ` Larry McVoy
2019-08-28 17:51                                     ` Jon Forrest
2019-08-28 18:56                                     ` Clem Cole
2019-08-28 20:23                                       ` Arrigo Triulzi
2019-08-29  3:24                                       ` Lawrence Stewart
2019-08-29 10:55                                         ` Tony Finch
2019-08-28 13:57                             ` Clem Cole
2019-08-28 12:46                           ` Warner Losh
2019-08-27 23:16                       ` Bakul Shah
2019-08-27 23:33                         ` Larry McVoy
2019-08-28  0:21                           ` Bakul Shah
2019-08-28  1:21                             ` Arthur Krewat
2019-08-28  1:46                               ` Larry McVoy
2019-08-27  0:48   ` Clem Cole
2019-08-27  1:25     ` Gregg Levine
2019-08-27  2:16   ` Theodore Y. Ts'o
2019-08-27  2:39     ` Larry McVoy
2019-08-27  5:54       ` Adam Thornton
2019-08-27  6:05         ` Gregg Levine
2019-08-27  1:17 ` Dan Cross
2019-08-28  3:53 ` Charles H. Sauer
2019-08-28  4:30 ` Jason Stevens
2019-08-28  9:36 ` Angus Robinson
2019-08-28  9:50   ` Michael Kjörling
2019-08-28 10:48     ` arnold
2019-08-28 14:10   ` Earl Baugh
2019-08-28 14:55     ` Clem Cole
2019-08-28 14:22   ` Charles H Sauer [this message]
2019-08-28 15:00     ` Steve Nickolas
2019-08-28 15:37       ` Richard Salz
2019-08-28 19:54         ` Peter Jeremy
2019-08-28 20:05           ` Christopher Browne
2019-08-28 20:07 ` Christopher Browne
2019-08-28 20:27   ` Adam Thornton
2019-08-28 20:56     ` William Pechter
2019-08-28 22:24       ` Clem cole
2019-08-28 22:27     ` William Pechter
2019-08-28 22:53       ` Arthur Krewat
2019-08-29 18:40       ` Nemo Nusquam
2019-08-29 19:18         ` Steffen Nurpmeso
2019-08-28 22:28     ` Clem cole
2019-08-28 22:48       ` Adam Thornton
2019-08-28 23:01         ` William Pechter
2019-08-28 23:09           ` Adam Thornton
2019-08-29  6:37           ` Wesley Parish
2019-08-28 23:04       ` Gregg Levine
2019-08-29 11:12     ` Tony Finch
2019-08-28 23:19   ` Theodore Y. Ts'o
2019-08-29 13:31     ` A. P. Garcia
2019-08-29 13:55       ` Arthur Krewat
2019-08-29 15:54         ` Thomas Paulsen
2019-08-29 19:19           ` Steffen Nurpmeso
2019-08-31  1:35             ` Dave Horsfall
2019-08-31 15:14               ` Steffen Nurpmeso
2019-08-31 16:58     ` Christopher Browne
2019-08-31 21:20       ` Theodore Y. Ts'o
2019-08-28 21:02 ` Thomas Paulsen

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