From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.8 required=5.0 tests=HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS, MAILING_LIST_MULTI,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (minnie.tuhs.org [45.79.103.53]) by inbox.vuxu.org (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTP id 07f7f2c8 for ; Wed, 28 Aug 2019 14:22:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id B470D9BCD7; Thu, 29 Aug 2019 00:22:52 +1000 (AEST) Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 47FA39BC99; Thu, 29 Aug 2019 00:22:36 +1000 (AEST) Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id 631939BC99; Thu, 29 Aug 2019 00:22:35 +1000 (AEST) Received: from rooster.satexas.com (rooster.satexas.com [207.235.90.2]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E9A699BC42 for ; Thu, 29 Aug 2019 00:22:34 +1000 (AEST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by rooster.satexas.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 683C41C2AD2 for ; Wed, 28 Aug 2019 09:22:34 -0500 (CDT) Received: from rooster.satexas.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (rooster.satexas.com [127.0.0.1]) (maiad, port 10024) with ESMTP id 42938-07 for ; Wed, 28 Aug 2019 09:22:33 -0500 (CDT) Received: from [192.168.147.6] (rrcs-71-42-153-195.sw.biz.rr.com [71.42.153.195]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: csauer@nwhillsumc.org) by rooster.satexas.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 4376D1C2ACC for ; Wed, 28 Aug 2019 09:22:33 -0500 (CDT) To: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org References: <13c5c36e-c84d-e020-d09e-51c8c502dc6d@kilonet.net> From: Charles H Sauer Message-ID: Date: Wed, 28 Aug 2019 09:22:34 -0500 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/60.8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: World Net ProMail v2.0.0 Subject: Re: [TUHS] If not Linux, then what? X-BeenThere: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 Precedence: list List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: tuhs-bounces@minnie.tuhs.org Sender: "TUHS" possible components of answer regarding animation/CGI: o SGI/MIPS/IRIX would have fared better/longer o Jobs would have pushed Pixar towards Mach o P4+NVIDIA would still have been disruptive (https://secure2.linuxjournal.com/ljarchive/LJ/099/6011s1.html) o Gates would have done more Windows had usable TCP/IP, at least starting with Windows 3, from Trumpet, Chameleon and others. I found/find the Microsoft 32 bit implementation preferable running Mosaic and Netscape, but had to do some work with 16 bit Trumpet a few years ago for a client that needed me to make some things work in DOS outside of Win 3.1. On 8/28/2019 4:36 AM, Angus Robinson wrote: ... > I think another question would be, if Linux was never invented, what > technologies would never have happened. For instance, a bunch of > animation movies where made with Linux farms, Planes use Linux within > their inbuilt entertainment systems, the list goes on (I think NASA uses > linux on their ISS). How many people would be interested in > technology/IT sector, how many companies would have started (ie: RedHat, > Thwat,etc), What features/addons would not have been added to other > operating systems (Windows tcp/ip)? Would docker even be a thing, hyper-v ? > > I know one thing....... All the old technology would be alot more and > schools would have alot more vunerabilites on their PC's. > > > > On Tue, Aug 27, 2019 at 1:13 AM Arthur Krewat > wrote: > > https://linux.slashdot.org/story/19/08/26/0051234/celebrating-the-28th-anniversary-of-the-linux-kernel > > Leaving licensing and copyright issues out of this mental exercise, > what > would we have now if it wasn't for Linux? Not what you'd WANT it to be, > although that can add to the discussion, but what WOULD it be? > > I'm not asking as a proponent of Linux. If anything, I was dragged > kicking and screaming into the current day and have begrudgingly ceded > my server space to Linux. > > But if not for Linux, would it be BSD? A System V variant? Or (the > horror) Windows NT? > > I do understand that this has been discussed on the list before. I > think, however, it would make a good late-summer exercise. Or late > winter depending on where you are :) > > art k. > > -- voice: +1.512.784.7526 e-mail: sauer@technologists.com fax: +1.512.346.5240 Web: https://technologists.com/sauer/ Facebook/Google/Skype/Twitter: CharlesHSauer