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[99.139.148.170]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id d8sm9374511otl.15.2020.11.30.13.49.40 for (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 bits=128/128); Mon, 30 Nov 2020 13:49:41 -0800 (PST) To: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org References: <8b580c46-ecfb-9383-ed43-08108b3ee7bf@tllds.com> <20201130163753.GB18187@mcvoy.com> <202011302011.0AUKBAis007581@freefriends.org> From: Will Senn Message-ID: Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2020 15:49:39 -0600 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.14; rv:78.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/78.5.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <202011302011.0AUKBAis007581@freefriends.org> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------2C20060CDC923504DE1057C7" Content-Language: en-GB Subject: Re: [TUHS] The UNIX Command Language (1976) X-BeenThere: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 Precedence: list List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: tuhs-bounces@minnie.tuhs.org Sender: "TUHS" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------2C20060CDC923504DE1057C7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To show how current this topic is, there's an interesting and related discussion upcoming at NYC Bug, For the Love of Troff, on Wed @ 18:45 (I'm guessing Eastern), via Zoom: https://www.nycbug.org/index?action=view&id=10678 On 11/30/20 2:11 PM, arnold@skeeve.com wrote: > Clem Cole wrote: > >>> I think O'Reilly was the last commercial publisher with a troff toolchain. > They stopped using troff directly well over 20 years ago. > These days if you're using a markup language and their toolset it's > either Asciidoc or docbook. > >> I think it depends on who you are and your editor is at the said firm. Tim >> will still take troff > I assume you mean Tim O'Reilly? He hasn't been involved in the book > side of his business in decades, and as I said, troff isn't in the picture > there. > >> as will John Waite at Pearson. > They farm such things out, they don't accept it in house. > Or the author can provide "camera ready copy", which these days > just means PDF. > >> That said, as Jon can tell you, Bill will not. > No idea who Bill is. > > Arnold -- GPG Fingerprint: 68F4 B3BD 1730 555A 4462 7D45 3EAA 5B6D A982 BAAF --------------2C20060CDC923504DE1057C7 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
To show how current this topic is, there's an interesting and related discussion upcoming at NYC Bug, For the Love of Troff, on Wed @ 18:45 (I'm guessing Eastern), via Zoom:

https://www.nycbug.org/index?action=view&id=10678



On 11/30/20 2:11 PM, arnold@skeeve.com wrote:
Clem Cole <clemc@ccc.com> wrote:


I think O'Reilly was the last commercial publisher with a troff toolchain.

They stopped using troff directly well over 20 years ago.
These days if you're using a markup language and their toolset it's
either Asciidoc or docbook.


I think it depends on who you are and your editor is at the said firm.  Tim
will still take troff

I assume you mean Tim O'Reilly?  He hasn't been involved in the book
side of his business in decades, and as I said, troff isn't in the picture
there.


as will John Waite at Pearson.

They farm such things out, they don't accept it in house.
Or the author can provide "camera ready copy", which these days
just means PDF.


  That said, as Jon can tell you, Bill will not.

No idea who Bill is.

Arnold



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