From: Mary Ann Horton <mah@mhorton.net>
To: segaloco <segaloco@protonmail.com>
Cc: tuhs@tuhs.org
Subject: [TUHS] Re: Found: 4.1BSD User's Manual Volume 2C Comb-Bound
Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2023 11:42:06 -0700 [thread overview]
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My vol 2C is comb bound with the Bell logo on the front and back cover.
It matches what Matt describes below: Date November 1980, hand-written
part 55 (Curses) on TOC, Curses included.
I personally wrote "4.1 BSD Vol 2C" on the spine of my comb version, and
"4.1 BSD Vol 1" on the spine of the other comb bound, which were clearly
a set. (We were expected to use the V7 vol 2a and 2b, as they were not
changed.) Vol 1's title page is dated June, 1981". The preface of Vol 1
adds 3 paragraphs beginning "This update to the fourth distribution of
November, 1980 provides support for the VAX 11/750 and for the full
interconnect architecture of the VAX 11/780. ..." This paragraph is not
dated but would seem to be from June 1981.
I don't recall who ran the set of manuals in Bell Labs, but it wasn't
done at Columbus. Someone was kind enough to send me a set.
I'm inclined to believe Matt is right about vol 2C not being updated
except by pencil and the Curses section.
Interestingly, I also have a "UNIX 3.0 Vol 1" comb bound manual with the
same style of cover, same personal spine label, probably done at the
same time, likely by the same group. I don't recall who but I'll
speculate it was someone at MH or WH. Possibly Brian Redman?
Thanks,
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On 10/14/23 22:49, segaloco wrote:
> One thing worth noting, I think, not sure, but I think the contents
> suggest the 4BSD rather than 4.1BSD set, I can't tell for certain
> because I actually can't locate a 4.1BSD doc folder with the Volume 2C
> intro and TOC. The physical article (as well as a Acco binder copy I
> also have) both indicate November 1980 (as opposed to 4.1BSDs June
> 1981.) Curiously, the comb bound one has one extra entry in the TOC
> written in by hand: the curses paper. Indeed it is the last in the
> comb bound manual and not present in my Acco-bound copy.
>
> Not conclusive of anything but just an observation, I can't track down
> an authoritatively-sourced copy of the doc/vmunix folder where the
> original of the TOC lives in 4BSD. The 4BSD typesetter sources of the
> TOC match what is in both copies I have, minus the hand-written curses
> inclusion.
>
> It very well could be the Volume 2C version of the TOC stopped being
> maintained around this time as I likewise don't see the doc/vmunix
> folder in 4.1c or 4.2. Either way, just something I found odd, I can't
> 100% confirm parity with what would be in /usr/doc on a standard
> 4.1BSD distro, I'll have to go digging and see what I have though, I
> feel like I archived away some 4.1BSD stuff I found somewhere that had
> some delta with what is in the UNIX tree. Not going to draw any firm
> conclusions until I put eyes on doc sources though. That said, it
> wouldn't surprise me if the manual amounts to more of a "4.0b", being
> the 4BSD set with some incremental changes towards 4.1. But again,
> nothing to back that up, just my initial impression.
>
> - Matt G.
> ------- Original Message -------
> On Saturday, October 14th, 2023 at 8:19 PM, Mary Ann Horton
> <mah@mhorton.net> wrote:
>
>> I checked my bookshelf - my 4.1BSD manuals are the same Bell Labs
>> printing as the two Worthpoint links below. AFAIK they are a vanilla
>> printing of the soft copy from the 4.1 BSD tape.
>>
>> If there is any value to documenting this further, please let me know.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> /Mary Ann Horton/ (she/her/ma'am)
>> maryannhorton.com <https://maryannhorton.com>
>>
>> “This is a great book about an amazing journey of a woman
>> who went through hell to become the person she is today.”
>> *- Monica Helms, creator of the transgender flag*
>>
>> "Brave and Important - Don’t miss this wonderful book!"
>> *- Laura L. Engel, Intl. Memoir Writers Assn.*
>>
>> Available on Amazon and bn.com. Audiobook on Google Play.
>>
>> <https://www.amazon.com/Trailblazer-Lighting-Transgender-Equality-Corporate-ebook/dp/B0B8F2BR9B>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 10/9/23 19:11, Jonathan Gray wrote:
>>> On Mon, Oct 09, 2023 at 04:17:36PM +0000, segaloco via TUHS wrote:
>>>> Spotted this and ordered it on eBayhttps://www.ebay.com/itm/235246689392
>>>>
>>>> After the link is a pretty nondescript comb-bound 4.1BSD User's
>>>> Manual Volume 2C. I don't think I've seen comb-bound issues prior
>>>> to the USENIX 4.2BSD set that introduced the Beastie cover. Does
>>>> anyone know if there was a limited run produced by the Berkeley
>>>> folks themselves or if this is more likely a one-off someone printed
>>>> for themselves? Either way, this is an exciting find for the
>>>> completeness of my library, this would leave 3BSD as the only VAX
>>>> BSD version I don't have any Volume 2C papers in my bookshelf from.
>>>> If this does prove to be issue from Berkeley or someone directly
>>>> adjacent to them, the next thing I hope to figure out is if this
>>>> has Volume 1 and Volume 2A/2B companions. I find myself curious
>>>> because the 4BSD Volume 2C I have was following a plain Jane Version
>>>> 7 Volume 2A/2B rather than also 4BSD 2A/2B, so whoever curated that
>>>> set either got them that way or clobbered V7 and 4BSD docs together
>>>> themselves.
>>> Brian Ehrmantraut's photo has two 4.1BSD volumes:
>>> https://www.facebook.com/groups/internetoldfarts/posts/722465582733996/
>>> Link from when the Wollongong Group version of the commentary was
>>> mentioned here.
>>>
>>> There was a Bell Laboratories printing of the 4.1BSD manuals.
>>> https://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/1981-bell-laboratories-unix-users-1947580163
>>> https://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/1980-bell-laboratories-unix-1947578308
>>>
>>> A list of documents included with the distribution can be found in
>>> doc/vmunix/cover*. Below text from 4.1a.tar.gz included in the CSRG
>>> Archives.
>>>
>>> July 8, 1981
>>>
>>>
>>> This is a full distribution kit for the second release of
>>> the Fourth Berkeley software tape, known as 4.1bsd. The
>>> package you received should have contained:
>>>
>>> 1) Either a 2400' 1600 bpi magnetic tape or two RK07 disk
>>> cartridges containing the basic system software; this
>>> is the bootstrap distribution media. A second 2400'
>>> 1600 bpi tape or a third RK07 disk cartridge contains
>>> additional material beyond the basic system on the
>>> first tape (INGRES, source for documents in the
>>> manuals, bit mapped fonts, etc.)
>>>
>>> 2) Documents titled ``Installing and operating 4.1bsd'',
>>> ``Bug fixes and changes in 4.1bsd'', ``Changes to the
>>> kernel in 4.1bsd'', and ``Hints on configuring VAX
>>> systems for UNIX''
>>>
>>> 3) A two sided copy of volume 1 of the programmer's
>>> manual.
>>>
>>> 4) A single sided, reproduction-quality copy of Volume 1
>>> of the programmer's manual for the system.
>>>
>>> 5) A copy of a document describing fsck.
>>>
>>> 6) A two sided copy of volumes 2a and 2b of the
>>> programmer's manual.
>>>
>>> 7) A single sided, reproduction-quality, copy of Volume 2c
>>> of the programmer's manual for the system.
>>>
>>> 8) 2 Vi Reference Cards and a master for reproducing
>>> cards.
>>>
>>> 9) Three documents describing the Berkeley Network.
>>>
>>> 10) Two documents on the internals of the Pascal system.
>>> manual and a new table of contents for volume 2c.
>
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Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2023-10-09 16:17 [TUHS] " segaloco via TUHS
2023-10-10 2:11 ` [TUHS] " Jonathan Gray
2023-10-15 3:19 ` Mary Ann Horton
2023-10-15 5:49 ` segaloco via TUHS
2023-10-16 18:42 ` Mary Ann Horton [this message]
2023-10-16 19:49 ` Clem Cole
2023-10-17 5:30 ` Jonathan Gray
2023-10-17 18:27 ` segaloco via TUHS
2023-10-17 20:11 ` Clem Cole
2023-10-17 21:56 ` segaloco via TUHS
2023-10-18 12:12 ` Rich Salz
2023-10-17 4:00 ` Jonathan Gray
2023-10-19 14:27 ` Mary Ann Horton
2023-10-18 0:18 Noel Chiappa
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