From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.8 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_INVALID,DKIM_SIGNED, MAILING_LIST_MULTI autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: (qmail 20149 invoked from network); 29 Nov 2022 11:34:19 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (50.116.15.146) by inbox.vuxu.org with ESMTPUTF8; 29 Nov 2022 11:34:19 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E4C2841C28; Tue, 29 Nov 2022 21:33:56 +1000 (AEST) Received: from taz.retrotronics.org (taz.retrotronics.org [66.228.61.155]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5591A41C1F for ; Tue, 29 Nov 2022 21:33:51 +1000 (AEST) Received: from www.retrotronics.org (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by taz.retrotronics.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD15A14D8A1 for ; Tue, 29 Nov 2022 06:33:19 -0500 (EST) DKIM-Filter: OpenDKIM Filter v2.11.0 taz.retrotronics.org DD15A14D8A1 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=alanlee.org; s=default; t=1669721599; bh=NUChCvEPrBlTkJoMUkPuOIEn9+5UhQvtO9WjbJuhd5s=; h=Date:From:To:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:From; b=FYIM9Hepx5ZDd1u1aDR+bPrcFv7azEacjGwSD05Bete3bdAGzCqhdAUaXQ2F08ByR BXBUoLyhiq0wep7wU5y+iWg3n6tw12PfALaH9Ob5hGn8eC61aIrj7D4tsM5BAy7DcO 6IkgJ9RAV62FM5zMO7xryDaGw1njh1sV4TBNmqZM= MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Tue, 29 Nov 2022 06:33:19 -0500 From: alan@alanlee.org To: tuhs@tuhs.org In-Reply-To: <8f278bf8-de57-4e77-a3b8-d007d7c3a446@app.fastmail.com> References: <8f278bf8-de57-4e77-a3b8-d007d7c3a446@app.fastmail.com> Message-ID: X-Sender: alan@alanlee.org User-Agent: Roundcube Webmail/1.3.2 Message-ID-Hash: K3FNJGDPH3JN4TQTHUR26O6OJ56JO663 X-Message-ID-Hash: K3FNJGDPH3JN4TQTHUR26O6OJ56JO663 X-MailFrom: alan@alanlee.org X-Mailman-Rule-Misses: dmarc-mitigation; no-senders; approved; emergency; loop; banned-address; member-moderation; header-match-tuhs.tuhs.org-0; nonmember-moderation; administrivia; implicit-dest; max-recipients; max-size; news-moderation; no-subject; digests; suspicious-header X-Mailman-Version: 3.3.6b1 Precedence: list Subject: [TUHS] Re: Reaction to the 3B2 at Bell Labs List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list Archived-At: List-Archive: List-Help: List-Owner: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: It would be nice to get more technical information on the 3B2s. As late as 2016, I had reached out to Ed Eckart the archivist at Alcatel-Lucent and Seth had contacted William Caughlin at AT&T archives for more information. Both seemed to indicate the systems were still in use at some customer sites and thus detailed technical info (eg. schematics, theory of operation docs, etc) could not be shared with the public. But that sort of information was preserved and safe. If anyone has contacts into either organization, a gentile nudge would be appreciated! :) -Alan On 2022-11-26 13:46, Seth Morabito wrote: > Hello all, > > I'm giving a presentation on the AT&T 3B2 at a local makerspace next > month, and while I've been preparing the talk I became curious about > an aspect that I don't know has been discussed elsewhere. > > I'm well aware that the 3B2 was something of a market failure with not > much penetration into the wider commercial UNIX space, but I'm very > curious to know more about what the reaction was at Bell Labs. When > AT&T entered the computer hardware market after the 1984 breakup, I > get the impression that there wasn't very much interest in any of it > at Bell Labs, is that true? > > Can anyone recall what the general mood was regarding the 3B2 (and the > 7300 and the 6300, I suppose!) > > -Seth