From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=MAILING_LIST_MULTI, NICE_REPLY_A,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: (qmail 20735 invoked from network); 9 Apr 2021 17:12:33 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (45.79.103.53) by inbox.vuxu.org with ESMTPUTF8; 9 Apr 2021 17:12:33 -0000 Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id 0D84593DD0; Sat, 10 Apr 2021 03:12:28 +1000 (AEST) Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B9F7693D6B; Sat, 10 Apr 2021 03:12:11 +1000 (AEST) Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id F1D5493D6B; Sat, 10 Apr 2021 03:12:08 +1000 (AEST) Received: from mslow1.mail.gandi.net (mslow1.mail.gandi.net [217.70.178.240]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0E94D93D69 for ; Sat, 10 Apr 2021 03:12:07 +1000 (AEST) Received: from relay7-d.mail.gandi.net (unknown [217.70.183.200]) by mslow1.mail.gandi.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A4DC7CB301 for ; Fri, 9 Apr 2021 17:02:26 +0000 (UTC) X-Originating-IP: 143.244.49.42 Received: from Mac-Pro.local (unknown [143.244.49.42]) (Authenticated sender: aek@bitsavers.org) by relay7-d.mail.gandi.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 9FE5720004 for ; Fri, 9 Apr 2021 17:02:23 +0000 (UTC) To: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org References: <0F0B9BFC06289346B88512B91E55670D3012@EXCHANGE> <7wk0pb6hy7.fsf@junk.nocrew.org> From: Al Kossow Message-ID: Date: Fri, 9 Apr 2021 10:02:21 -0700 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.11; rv:78.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/78.9.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <7wk0pb6hy7.fsf@junk.nocrew.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [TUHS] SUN (Stanford University Network) was PC Unix X-BeenThere: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 Precedence: list List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: tuhs-bounces@minnie.tuhs.org Sender: "TUHS" On 4/9/21 12:22 AM, Lars Brinkhoff wrote: > Jason Stevens wrote: >> Is there any solid info on the Stanford SUN boards? > > I believe SAIL PDP-10 backup tapes have a large amount of files about > the Stanford SUN project. But due to privacy concerns it would not be > easy to make the information public. Maybe if there were a concerted > effort to contact Vaughan Pratt, Andy Bechtolsheim, et al, and ask their > permission. > All of the schematics and prom dumps of the Stanford version are on bitsavers, CPU, 3m Ethernet, and frame buffer. The VLSI Systems design sold by Andy before Sun was founded is the original SUN design. The 3meg ethernet was used at PARC for the Dicentra router, I don't know if any third parties licensed the frame buffer, maybe Lucasfilm. Stanford extended the original design for campus routers with more memory. There was an example of that board in a display case in the Gates building before the remodeling started. If you were going after permission, it would also be good to get SAIL's version of SUDS and if they have it the LLNL S1 designs and software.