From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: tuhs-bounces@minnie.tuhs.org X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.1 (2015-04-28) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.1 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_SIGNED,DKIM_VALID, DKIM_VALID_AU,FREEMAIL_FORGED_FROMDOMAIN,FREEMAIL_FROM, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS,MAILING_LIST_MULTI,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.1 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (minnie.tuhs.org [45.79.103.53]) by inbox.vuxu.org (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTP id c1d39510 for ; Fri, 24 Aug 2018 17:55:00 +0000 (UTC) Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id 055DFA1A97; Sat, 25 Aug 2018 03:54:59 +1000 (AEST) Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B2A4DA1A1A; Sat, 25 Aug 2018 03:54:46 +1000 (AEST) Authentication-Results: minnie.tuhs.org; dkim=pass (2048-bit key; unprotected) header.d=gmail.com header.i=@gmail.com header.b=uvWjjhRm; dkim-atps=neutral Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id 592F3A1A1A; Sat, 25 Aug 2018 03:54:44 +1000 (AEST) Received: from mail-pg1-f180.google.com (mail-pg1-f180.google.com [209.85.215.180]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id F10D7A1A19 for ; Sat, 25 Aug 2018 03:54:43 +1000 (AEST) Received: by mail-pg1-f180.google.com with SMTP id b129-v6so4608154pga.13 for ; Fri, 24 Aug 2018 10:54:43 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=subject:to:references:from:message-id:date:user-agent:mime-version :in-reply-to:content-language:content-transfer-encoding; bh=s5QVZ1zN2rlkWBkSCsO9UbpZVZP1yAoV/r2ZoNeI7v8=; b=uvWjjhRmMNfAWV1pyEEWE/nszKWdNv2K92o8c64L5UnFle4nFaoeycFi1z++Y+W/Fa ruCvcLRKCf6UTUFqVGhdawjm4EVY+qb6xoeT9HLwfyDfI1TbF/UEx711qXwtZJAVLdJW glUeTJL3+1d/6I8gkR1jj4dgWq+21jZ3GEH9XE29Q+ht9sN/Ngqo9UegXkBoSLJD8GUa yMCh5sKkJzxJTCJi4cVRIA5T/s173UuR5FO7h4WyY/BbCDQp8NN3ZFzC/DcaRV0Kc6lV sNIvazsEhqdpyFoj30SmRER0cGnLNp9f3xVuaIqnWntb+6EjKEoHJUflgHmGcEtYaxSO PB3Q== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:subject:to:references:from:message-id:date :user-agent:mime-version:in-reply-to:content-language :content-transfer-encoding; bh=s5QVZ1zN2rlkWBkSCsO9UbpZVZP1yAoV/r2ZoNeI7v8=; b=q5xZGkjiEAU+QIWfUEAphMXbsl2ywedY1/t5RAZHIXqgrcO1cTtorqPwo9zRz0AWTN Cn3PWJ3xmlWgjsUgkPMeINWvNR1mjsMXpr2UUYlgooRvRJXYKeDu6FgwZevx6m0lucz0 VC7I7sx8yLkOQDBVnZvYVspH9uck4Js2/DI2hauAjM9AavgPRelT6hCKzKIeZidNO9Yn Gzvv8mpTxB3CEIMRERrFt5vZFy64As45Fh63xYu4dWP/Ez1gKL2QyvlFn/mU0wyllE55 hOLyCPUB5P7SL79fqo1I+LgcKMCEva9v1p+sVyfIzmlkC3fk8DS/a+k2AsUV/XS3b/lD iZew== X-Gm-Message-State: APzg51B5rHSp+v6zF4OIzs9Vqg5K4FQgufKZeVJ2ZvU0al+zi9YNM238 KjSZyR94yqZuJWKtdO2nM6Mc0d0C X-Google-Smtp-Source: ANB0VdbupWpg0HPJL2aRhRu5jDifvXyxYmp0DzhvswRbOBu+LS+PVqqkvDcim1IM0xbFVpCqIrp3Ng== X-Received: by 2002:a62:e008:: with SMTP id f8-v6mr3015426pfh.208.1535133283359; Fri, 24 Aug 2018 10:54:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.234] ([76.77.189.226]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id b14-v6sm14932510pfc.178.2018.08.24.10.54.42 for (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Fri, 24 Aug 2018 10:54:42 -0700 (PDT) To: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org References: <1535123616.1824656.1485063544.08BED1A8@webmail.messagingengine.com> <20180824164646.GH25694@mcvoy.com> From: Jon Forrest Message-ID: Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2018 10:54:41 -0700 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.9.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20180824164646.GH25694@mcvoy.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [TUHS] Research UNIX on the AT&T 3B2? X-BeenThere: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: tuhs-bounces@minnie.tuhs.org Sender: "TUHS" On 8/24/2018 9:46 AM, Larry McVoy wrote: > People remember the alpha with a lot of revisionist history, talking > about fast it was. I was actually measuring performance of all the > CPUs at that time and the Alpha I had wasn't anything to write home > about. When the alpha first came out there were 3 implementations, soon followed by more. I wonder which one you measured. (You probably don't remember this but you once came to my office at UCB to talk to my officemate Carl Staelin back when I had one of the first alphas to be released by DEC.) Jon