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Ip=[59.148.14.54]; Helo=[exchange.superglobalmegacorp.local] X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-FromEntityHeader: HybridOnPrem X-MS-Exchange-Transport-CrossTenantHeadersStamped: PS2PR02MB2679 Subject: Re: [TUHS] Floppy to modern files for Usenet maps X-BeenThere: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 Precedence: list List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: tuhs-bounces@minnie.tuhs.org Sender: "TUHS" --_28E7F8B5-83B8-4D0C-9AE8-41C9917C5019_ Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" I found the posting reference here:=20 http://maryannhorton.com/usenet/010180.MAP.jpg https://utzoo.superglobalmegacorp.com/usenet/news005f1/b12/net.general/1501= .txt http://maryannhorton.com/usenet/032183.BBM.jpg https://utzoo.superglobalmegacorp.com/usenet/news004f1/b11/net.news/541.txt http://maryannhorton.com/usenet/040581.MAP.jpg The map is mentioned in here: http://www.ais.org/~ronda/new.papers/articles= /earlyversion.arpanet.txt As far as BBM files I just find this: Name: Graphics Display System (GDS) Purpose: Image display, conversion, thumbnail catalogs Version: 3.1e Author: Photodex Corporation FTP: ftp://ftp.netcom.com/pub/ph/photodex CIS: GO PHOTODEX, GDS Viewing Software (Lib 3) Imports: ANS (ANSI text), BBM, BMF, BMP, CUT/PAL (Dr. Halo), DIB, DL, FLC, FLI, FLX, GDS, GIF, GL, HAM, ICO, IFF/ILBM, IMG, JFI, JPG (JFIF), LBM, MAC, MP2 & MPA (MPEG Audio), MPG, PCC, PCX, RAX, RFX, RLE, SC? (ColoRIX), TGA, TIFF and TXT (text). Exports: ANS (ANSI text), BBM, BMP, CUT/PAL (Dr. Halo), GDS, GIF, IFF/ILBM, IMG, JFI, JPG (JFIF), LBM, PCC, PCX, RAX, RFX, RLE, SC? (ColoRIX), TGA, and TIFF. Features: File viewing, batch conversions, easy thumbnail catalog creation with many options, slide shows, automatic configuration. Includes 5000+ lines of hypertext help and prints 98 page cross referenced manual. Supports HGC, CGA, EGA, S-EGA, VGA, SVGA, XGA, TIGA and VESA. Registered versions print to HP PCL & 100% compatible laser and inkjet printers. Comments: Used by CompuServe sysops to catalog over 40,000 images regularly. ASP approved shareware. =20 No idea if it survives at all. If you can screen shot the headers of the posts it=E2=80=99s easier to find= them in old usenet archives. The UTZOO stuff is an AMAZING resource. It= =E2=80=99s been incredibly valuable looking for old stuff. Of course the r= eal fun is in searching it.=20 Feel free to wget the BZ2 files from: https://utzoo.superglobalmegacorp.com/ Just don=E2=80=99t spider into the /usenet directory as it=E2=80=99s all th= e files extracted and you=E2=80=99ll no doubt be pulling several million fi= les=E2=80=A6 much easier to get the .tar.bz2 =E2=80=98s. From: Mary Ann Horton Gmail Sent: Monday, June 24, 2019 8:40 AM To: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org Subject: Re: [TUHS] Floppy to modern files for Usenet maps I put the screenshots (literally - with my phone) here: http://maryannhorton.com/usenet/ Note the preposterous claim that the 4/15/81 map is the "Backbone" - I=20 have no idea where that came from. The backbone was first proposed 2=20 years later. Clearly this is a full map of Usenet as of 4/15/81. =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 Mary Ann On 6/23/19 4:57 PM, Grant Taylor via TUHS wrote: > >> I took some photos of the screen with the earliest maps (the ones=20 >> that fit on one screen.) So it's an option to type things in, at=20 >> least for the early ASCII ones. > > I'd be interested in seeing them.=C2=A0 Do you have a place that you can= =20 > upload them to? > > > --_28E7F8B5-83B8-4D0C-9AE8-41C9917C5019_ Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset="utf-8"

I found the posting reference here: =

 

http://maryannhorton.co= m/usenet/010180.MAP.jpg

https:= //utzoo.superglobalmegacorp.com/usenet/news005f1/b12/net.general/1501.txt

 

http://mary= annhorton.com/usenet/032183.BBM.jpg

= https://utzoo.superglobalmegacorp.com/usenet/news004f1/b11/net= .news/541.txt

 

<= p class=3DMsoNormal>http://maryannhorton.com/usenet/040581.MAP.jpg

The map is mentioned in here: http://www.ais.org/~ro= nda/new.papers/articles/earlyversion.arpanet.txt

 

As far as BBM files = I just find this:

 

=C2=A0 Name:=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 Graphics Dis=
play System (GDS)
=
=C2=A0 Purpose:=C2=A0 Image display, conversion, thumbnail catalogs
=C2=A0 Version:=C2=A0 3.1e=

=C2=A0 Author:=C2=
=A0=C2=A0 Photodex Corporation <p=
hotodex@netcom.com>
=C2=A0 FTP:=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 ftp://ftp.netcom.com/pub/ph/photodex=

=C2=A0 CIS:=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=
=C2=A0=C2=A0 GO PHOTODEX, GDS Viewing Software (Lib 3)
=C2=A0 Imports:=C2=A0 ANS (ANSI text), =
BBM, BMF, BMP, CUT/PAL (Dr. Halo), DIB, DL,
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 FLC, FLI, FLX, GDS, GIF, GL, HAM, ICO, IFF/ILBM, IMG, JF=
I,
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=
=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 JPG (JFIF), LBM, MAC, M=
P2 & MPA (MPEG Audio), MPG, PCC,
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=
=A0=C2=A0 PCX, RAX, RFX, RLE, SC? (ColoRIX), TGA, TIFF and TXT (text).=

=C2=A0 Exports:=C2=A0 A=
NS (ANSI text), BBM, BMP, CUT/PAL (Dr. Halo), GDS, GIF,
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 IFF/ILBM, IMG, JFI, JPG (JFIF), LBM, PCC, PC=
X, RAX, RFX,
=C2=A0=
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 RLE, SC? (Colo=
RIX), TGA, and TIFF.
=C2=A0 Features: File viewing, batch conversions, easy thumbnail catalog<=
o:p>
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 creation with many options=
, slide shows, automatic
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 co=
nfiguration.=C2=A0 Includes 5000+ lines of hypertext help=

=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 and prints 98 page cross referenced manual.=
=C2=A0 Supports HGC,
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 CGA, E=
GA, S-EGA, VGA, SVGA, XGA, TIGA and VESA. Registered
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=
=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 versions print to HP PCL & 100% compatible =
laser and inkjet
=
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 printers=
.
=C2=A0 Comments: =
Used by CompuServe sysops to catalog over 40,000 images
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 regularly.=C2=A0 ASP approved shareware.=C2=
=A0

 

No idea if it survives at all.

 

If you can screen shot the head= ers of the posts it=E2=80=99s easier to find them in old usenet archives.= =C2=A0 The UTZOO stuff is an AMAZING resource.=C2=A0 It=E2=80=99s been incr= edibly valuable looking for old stuff.=C2=A0 Of course the real fun is in s= earching it.

 

Feel free to wget the BZ2 files from:

https://utzoo.superglobalmegaco= rp.com/

 

Just don=E2=80=99t spider into the /usenet directory as it=E2= =80=99s all the files extracted and you=E2=80=99ll no doubt be pulling seve= ral million files=E2=80=A6 much easier to get the .tar.bz2 =E2=80=98s.

<= p class=3DMsoNormal> 

 

From: Ma= ry Ann Horton Gmail
Sent: Monday, June 24, 2019 8:40 AM
To: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.orgSubject: Re: [TUHS] Floppy to modern files for Usenet maps

 

I put the = screenshots (literally - with my phone) here:

=  

http://maryannhorton.com/usenet/

 

Note the prepo= sterous claim that the 4/15/81 map is the "Backbone" - I

have no idea where that came from. The backbone was first = proposed 2

years later. Clearly this is a full map= of Usenet as of 4/15/81.

 

    Mary Ann

=  

On 6/23/19 4:57 PM, Grant Taylor via T= UHS wrote:

> 

>> I took some photos of the screen with the earliest maps (the= ones

>> that fit on one screen.) So it's an= option to type things in, at

>> least for t= he early ASCII ones.

> 

> I'd be interested in seeing them.  Do you have a = place that you can

> upload them to?

> 

> =

> 

 

= --_28E7F8B5-83B8-4D0C-9AE8-41C9917C5019_--