From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: chet.ramey@case.edu (Chet Ramey) Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2017 14:43:59 -0400 Subject: [TUHS] old X versions In-Reply-To: <8e0ad468-ddc0-72b8-e1fb-3111f6c33314@case.edu> References: <201709111649.v8BGnGTx005812@darkstar.fourwinds.com> <20170911230910.GH7819@mcvoy.com> <201709120738.v8C7ckOF007026@freefriends.org> <201709121535.v8CFZOuB015695@darkstar.fourwinds.com> <201709122211.v8CMB3pf029787@darkstar.fourwinds.com> <201709130014.v8D0EHEi021561@darkstar.fourwinds.com> <1505781872.3170445.1110508336.1E68BC0D@webmail.messagingengine.com> <201709191405.v8JE5iI5027378@darkstar.fourwinds.com> <1620f879-e4be-7fca-8bf7-a1a8896d8ba1@case.edu> <8e0ad468-ddc0-72b8-e1fb-3111f6c33314@case.edu> Message-ID: On 9/19/17 2:32 PM, Chet Ramey wrote: > On 9/19/17 2:23 PM, Nemo wrote: >> On 19 September 2017 at 11:39, Chet Ramey wrote: >>> On 9/19/17 11:16 AM, Gregg Levine wrote: >>>> Hello! >>>> Wasn't the original project called "Athena", and wasn't it pursued by >>>> one of the many Labs at MIT? >>> >>> The athena project was indeed at MIT, and X was a part of that. This >>> would have been started and developed during the mid-1980s (1983, to be >>> exact). X's predecessor was a window system named W, which was developed >>> at Stanford. Bob Scheifler used W as the basis for X. >> >> I vaguely recall (assuming no bit rot) that IBM was also involved and >> they refused to release their portion under FRAND terms, leading Bob >> to write X. > > As I understand it, Scheifler began with W, which Paul Asente and Chris > Kent had ported to Unix and given him a copy. He initially replaced its > synchronous protocol with an asynchronous one and went on from there. This is covered in one of the original Athena papers: The X Window System by Scheifler and Gettys. I have the full set of "Project Athena: The First Ten Years"; it's in volume 1. I think that paper was presented at a couple of conferences, so there are probably copies floating around on the net somewhere. -- ``The lyf so short, the craft so long to lerne.'' - Chaucer ``Ars longa, vita brevis'' - Hippocrates Chet Ramey, UTech, CWRU chet at case.edu http://cnswww.cns.cwru.edu/~chet/