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From: will.senn@gmail.com (Will Senn)
Subject: [TUHS] Determining what was on a tape back in the day
Date: Sat, 18 Nov 2017 15:26:55 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <c094944f-0444-b211-6608-07c914e3a223@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAC20D2O+qgQdZzC2sg_BmuchRG_HHypS-0W+H+vzKQObfx4b+Q@mail.gmail.com>

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On 11/18/17 12:57 PM, Clem Cole wrote:
> A quick look, and I think it's an stp (super TP) tape -- stp is from 
> the Harvard distribution.   This would make sense, because that was 
> the standard back before tar.
> As Ron pointed out, tp (which Ken designed for DECTapes originally) 
> puts the index at the head of the tape (tar and later cpis threaded 
> the index inline).   But it means its a fixed size and there were some 
> other issues (tp may have originally been in assembler IIRC).   On 
> DECtape, tp worked pretty well/was pretty cool because you could 
> update a block, less so on 9-track which when you re-wrote block N, 
> you lost all blocks afterwards.  Also, I don't remember why now 
> [probably the limits off the directory], but it was typically in those 
> days to take all the files in a directory, turn them into a foo.a (ar 
> format) archive.  So the stp image was a bunch of files: dir1/mumble.a 
>  dir2/grumble.a dir3/bumble.a ...
> You then needed to unarchive the files within each directory.   Also, 
> remember ar(1) when through some changes in format between 4-7th 
> editions as the compiler and linker matured.  So watch out on that 
> front too...
>
> Anyway, v6 tp probably will read it, but if you poke around the TUHS 
> and bitkeeper archives for the original Harvard distribution, stp.c 
> should exist.
>
I'll look around. v6 tp was able to read the tape:
set tc en
att tc0 unix6.dat
c
# chdir /usr/6
# tp t0
speakez/sbrk.s
dcheck.c
...

the directories don't get created on extract, but that's typical on v6.

Will

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Thread overview: 47+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-11-18 16:39 Will Senn
2017-11-18 18:57 ` Clem Cole
2017-11-18 20:03   ` Don Hopkins
2017-11-18 22:37     ` Dave Horsfall
2017-11-18 23:16       ` Don Hopkins
2017-11-18 23:35         ` Arthur Krewat
2017-11-19  0:35           ` Steve Nickolas
2017-11-19  0:42             ` Don Hopkins
2017-11-19  1:04               ` Clem cole
2017-11-19 16:20                 ` Arthur Krewat
2017-11-20  2:33         ` Lawrence Stewart
2017-11-18 21:26   ` Will Senn [this message]
2017-11-18 22:39     ` Clem Cole
2017-11-18 18:34 Noel Chiappa
2017-11-18 18:37 ` Ronald Natalie
2017-11-18 18:40   ` Ronald Natalie
2017-11-18 21:51   ` Dave Horsfall
2017-11-18 21:07 ` Will Senn
2017-11-18 22:53   ` Clem Cole
2017-11-19  1:47     ` Will Senn
2017-11-18 19:23 Noel Chiappa
2017-11-18 21:32 ` Will Senn
2017-11-18 21:49   ` Warren Toomey
2017-11-19 13:41 Noel Chiappa
2017-11-19 14:55 ` Clem cole
2017-11-19 21:00   ` William Corcoran
2017-11-19 21:19     ` Ron Natalie
2017-11-19 22:00       ` Dave Horsfall
2017-11-19 22:38         ` Lyndon Nerenberg
2017-11-19 22:40         ` Ronald Natalie
2017-11-19 23:41           ` Dave Horsfall
2017-11-20  1:02             ` Ronald Natalie
2017-11-20  1:18               ` Dave Horsfall
2017-11-20 18:12                 ` Random832
2017-11-20 23:22                   ` Dave Horsfall
2017-11-20 23:35                     ` William Pechter
2017-11-21  0:01                     ` Ron Natalie
2017-11-20 19:02   ` Paul Winalski
2017-11-19 14:55 ` Will Senn
2017-11-19 17:49 Noel Chiappa
2017-11-19 18:35 ` Arthur Krewat
2017-11-19 18:45 Noel Chiappa
2017-11-19 20:46 Steve Simon
2017-11-20 16:01 Noel Chiappa
2017-11-20 17:37 ` Will Senn
2017-11-20 17:00 Noel Chiappa
2017-11-20 19:42 Noel Chiappa

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