From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.9 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED, DKIM_INVALID,DKIM_SIGNED,FREEMAIL_FORGED_FROMDOMAIN,FREEMAIL_FROM, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS,MAILING_LIST_MULTI,MISSING_HEADERS, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (minnie.tuhs.org [45.79.103.53]) by inbox.vuxu.org (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTP id 30467aa9 for ; Wed, 28 Aug 2019 22:36:51 +0000 (UTC) Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id 074CF9BFC0; Thu, 29 Aug 2019 08:36:50 +1000 (AEST) Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 037259BDBB; Thu, 29 Aug 2019 08:36:37 +1000 (AEST) Authentication-Results: minnie.tuhs.org; dkim=fail reason="signature verification failed" (2048-bit key; unprotected) header.d=gmail.com header.i=@gmail.com header.b="qOXFqAQc"; dkim-atps=neutral Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id 3A6C79BDBB; Thu, 29 Aug 2019 08:36:36 +1000 (AEST) Received: from mail-qk1-f193.google.com (mail-qk1-f193.google.com [209.85.222.193]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D6E849BD79 for ; Thu, 29 Aug 2019 08:36:35 +1000 (AEST) Received: by mail-qk1-f193.google.com with SMTP id m2so1230710qkd.10 for ; Wed, 28 Aug 2019 15:36:35 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=subject:references:cc:from:message-id:date:user-agent:mime-version :in-reply-to:content-transfer-encoding:content-language; bh=gzrnSklhjd4lh/2uCY8U1IWnMr/3PQ8eWChOpZsYaxc=; b=qOXFqAQcc8Vq5PB/SyvCJKgJUAmBpn2winKyKXqlzlj4lhFdvBOXd7TDWAEE8u+JCm nBCKMfOevQzgjhKKf5+wRq/bpl8tdR2BqK7pvS6XX600g0nsqCni10qYpXudYyDqVS59 jHKgqLkU65TOGXhMcrD5NLzrXybkVZofFJ6Ged4w0RYsfEYDdDuReq4bbUWeEPItXQDK ceI2B2ZSnVktfCpsgWVj1Q+enpWuQBHLIRcTuqwJpEnzObL9WOLAueq6J5c1Yg6j6XCf apCtxoM3j41hjSjcQW6k+vqBu2WiTU+afL2Pw4RdD8peIe5gFb+4jKwY8qKjBl55gQdG alXA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:subject:references:cc:from:message-id:date :user-agent:mime-version:in-reply-to:content-transfer-encoding :content-language; bh=gzrnSklhjd4lh/2uCY8U1IWnMr/3PQ8eWChOpZsYaxc=; b=HQoRUDjYRp5kwvAyiSWQpEvksGG0smIbymwlabLnOAYiVATLA4k/JCm69sWHDqq9HJ TgmZaD4caOXRfE4FXSj8sWm0kBAy2Hc7w8guB/bqUkcJbbB0TFGwVOKSPwGl4ezNsftT nz0y0V55YUGpUgTccECg3fMwtxG900pzrzb3IyCLsTtGcYXZDGh4GgCM9l1KqyNPXLtJ +qt1IRj6VYcVhbIAIPW1hgWnwFCVaybWTl8zb+Jw4qVPZFY/JaQAvyx0tOxl7vPQ3zzP +lAXqqeaR962m15BEsrMpo/EWUftSgQ8GUm3frVhmukbtjNZWcmvgvhcC02ttNYCZEGK TJGw== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAXxZJ/JW9LYelDBFTD/gdc8/o149NpxEfLwEWIMlxFyqekacjUH JquJaXmCdASracxs8iUADz4OLyXEXn0= X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqwdJ3XhRlx+QKhXn0S9Mvjuswd7TyU8dn4ON5+haUKxN/7Bpv4TAdTtWsga/KS9ZGeiE15tnw== X-Received: by 2002:ae9:e112:: with SMTP id g18mr6531634qkm.456.1567031794190; Wed, 28 Aug 2019 15:36:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.130.207] (pool-96-242-232-93.nwrknj.fios.verizon.net. [96.242.232.93]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id d3sm311972qtq.32.2019.08.28.15.36.33 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Wed, 28 Aug 2019 15:36:33 -0700 (PDT) References: <201908281841.x7SIfQS7053036@tahoe.cs.Dartmouth.EDU> From: William Pechter Message-ID: Date: Wed, 28 Aug 2019 18:36:34 -0400 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/60.8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Language: en-GB Subject: Re: [TUHS] dmr streams & networking [was: Re: If not Linux, then what?] X-BeenThere: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 Precedence: list List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: TUHS Errors-To: tuhs-bounces@minnie.tuhs.org Sender: "TUHS" I could've sworn 4.x BSD supported Micom Internan NI1010 or some other early ethernet like 3com as well as the DEC boards. Anyone have the 4.1 or 4.2 BSD docs handy.  Mine are boxed away for safe keeping. On 8/28/2019 6:29 PM, George Michaelson wrote: > This is an object lesson in not making assumptions about things. I had > always assumed the V in UNIX 32V stood for something which went to > demand paging, from 'Virtual Addressing'. Turns out: I was wrong. > > One other note about sockets: The original 4.2 port had to be used by > a lot of people without the ethernet, because we didn't have the DEC > ethernet card it was written to. This made unix domain sockets very > interesting because you could test in them. Except: the very first > test program somebody wrote at Leeds university to create and write to > a unix domain socket in /tmp crashed the vax. ... (this was around > 1982/3) -We were warned off using sockets until the first patch tape > came in the post. > >