Well, the problem is not unique to C.   If Python has such a mechanism it doesn't seem to be used by TensorFlow.   If a TF operation finds an error, in execution, there is, so far as I know, no way for the error to refer back to the source Python code, or even the variable names involved.  You have to say "name=..." for any op for which you want to know the name -- otherwise, TensorFlow gives them internal names that, for large designs, can be very hard to decode.  (Of course, in TensorFlow, most of the heavy lifting is done by C++ called by a Python wrapper, that further "enhances" the debugging experience) Steve ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul Winalski" To:"Steve Johnson" Cc:"Clem Cole" , "TUHS main list" Sent:Fri, 29 Dec 2017 20:52:00 -0500 Subject:Re: [TUHS] origin of C header files On 12/29/17, Steve Johnson wrote: > I begged Dennis for a solution, and he came up with #line, > which allowed you to say to the C compiler "treat the next line as if > it were line nnn in file fff, and following lines as successor lines > in file fff. It instantly solved the problem, and was used multiple > times for various applications (probably most notably cfront). So > far as I know, many languages including FORTRAN, Pascal and Python do > not have such a mechanism, making it awkward to use them as > preprocessor targets. Language processing systems where the preprocessor functionality is implemented as a part of the compiler itself never had the "associate the error message with the line in the original source" problem that you described. The compiler could keep an internal table mapping the lexical output of the preprocessor to the source lines/files that went into the preprocessor phase. Most (all?) of DEC's and IBM's compilers operate this way. In keeping with UNIX's philosophy of "one image/one purpose", C's preprocessor functionality was in a separate image from the compiler itself. There are many advantages to this design, including that cpp can then be used for other languages than C. But is has the disadvantage of introducing the source correlation problem that required the introduction of #line. -Paul W. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: