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But I wonder: do= es TUHS have any way of consolidating these threads into easily digestib= le documents? What would be preferred, a wiki? or a source control repo = with =E2=80=9Carticles=E2=80=9D? I=E2=80=99m mostly wanting summarize this kind of thread and include lin= ks to mailing list messages and other resources. But also, I=E2=80=99m lazy and I am not committing to editing a journal. On Thu, Jan 26, 2023, at 10:04, Jon Steinhart wrote: > John Cowan writes: >> On Wed, Jan 25, 2023 at 8:47 PM Chris Hanson >> wrote: >> >> >> > > * What do I really mean by workstation? Ex.gr. If an installation= had a >> > PDP-11 with a single terminal and operator, is it not a workstation= ? Is it >> > the integration of display into the system that differentiates? >> > >> > I think "a graphical system intended to be used by a professional t= o use >> > in their work" is a good starting point for a definition. I should = check at >> > home tonight how "A History of Personal Workstations" defines it. >> > >> >> WP says the Terak 8510/a was the first graphical workstation; it came= out >> in 1976-77 and ran the UCSD p-System. I had never heard of it before= . The >> first *personal* workstation (non-graphical) was probably the IBM 162= 0 (aka >> the CADET system, "Can't Add, Doesn't Even Try") from 1959. > > I think that WP is not correct here, the Tektronix 4051 beat it to mar= ket > by a year.