From: <jsteve@superglobalmegacorp.com>
To: "Jeffrey H. Johnson" <trnsz@pobox.com>,
Derek Fawcus <dfawcus+lists-tuhs@employees.org>
Cc: "tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org" <tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org>
Subject: Re: [TUHS] RetroNet…
Date: Mon, 3 Sep 2018 16:24:47 +0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <c6448cc8-27d5-47b9-af55-8dcb73e0247b@SG2APC01FT048.eop-APC01.prod.protection.outlook.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <FB0B84A0-002A-46AA-A9BE-19124C02686D@pobox.com>
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Yes, I’m familiar with that write up…. I wrote it!
And yes, it's why I later grabbed a bunch of compression algorithms and went with lzss as it compressed well, fast an ld was tiny compared to others...
https://virtuallyfun.com/wordpress/2014/06/06/i-forget-what-i-was-looking-for/
I would highly recommend compressing the frames for sure. On high latency links it sure helps too.
It's also why cisco had licensed LZS compression for their serial links. And totally worth looking at.
From: Jeffrey H. Johnson
Sent: Monday, 3 September 2018 15:12
To: Derek Fawcus
Cc: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org
Subject: Re: [TUHS] RetroNet…
Interestingly -
https://virtuallyfun.com/wordpress/2013/10/25/doom-ipx-revisited/ has a good writeup on the Doom IPX issue - it was a poor implementation sending mainly empty frames. https://virtuallyfun.com/wordpress/2014/06/10/announcing-hecnetnt/ shows how adding compression to a bridge is able to eliminate 80% of the traffic.
Bring this back on topic, perhaps adding optional LZO compression, but enabled by default, would be a good idea for RetroNet.
--Jeff
On Sep 2, 2018, at 6:45 PM, Derek Fawcus <dfawcus+lists-tuhs@employees.org> wrote:
On Thu, Aug 30, 2018 at 12:11:17PM -0600, Grant Taylor via TUHS wrote:
But if you want to use RetroNet to play Doom across IPX with buddies across town, then you should be able to do so.
Err - maybe not.
I recall doing that once or twice on our office LAN at the time, it was very chatty - as I recall it sucked most of the available b/w.
(Or maybe that was just 'cause it was using broadcast packets)
DF
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Thread overview: 72+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2018-08-29 17:25 Grant Taylor via TUHS
2018-08-29 17:49 ` Andreas Hein
2018-08-29 18:05 ` Grant Taylor via TUHS
2018-08-29 18:26 ` William Pechter
2018-08-29 18:42 ` Grant Taylor via TUHS
[not found] ` <a09e914b-ae45-4dfa-8964-826852b3252e.maildroid@localhost>
2018-08-29 18:49 ` [TUHS] Fwd: RetroNet… William Pechter
2018-08-29 18:56 ` Grant Taylor via TUHS
2018-08-29 18:50 ` [TUHS] RetroNet… Clem Cole
2018-08-29 18:57 ` Arthur Krewat
2018-08-29 19:30 ` Clem Cole
2018-08-29 20:09 ` Arthur Krewat
2018-08-29 20:58 ` Clem Cole
2018-08-30 0:13 ` Dave Horsfall
2018-08-29 18:50 ` Ron Young
2018-08-31 1:17 ` Cornelius Keck
2018-08-31 4:33 ` Grant Taylor via TUHS
2018-08-31 1:20 ` Cornelius Keck
2018-08-31 3:07 ` Steve Nickolas
2018-08-31 4:40 ` Grant Taylor via TUHS
2018-08-31 23:25 ` Dave Horsfall
2018-09-01 6:52 ` Dave Horsfall
2018-09-01 16:16 ` Grant Taylor via TUHS
2018-08-29 18:04 ` Seth Morabito
2018-08-29 18:33 ` Grant Taylor via TUHS
2018-08-29 18:36 ` [TUHS] RetroNet??? Larry McVoy
2018-08-29 18:48 ` Grant Taylor via TUHS
2018-08-29 18:53 ` Dan Cross
2018-08-29 19:00 ` William Pechter
2018-08-29 19:35 ` Grant Taylor via TUHS
2018-08-29 19:43 ` William Pechter
2018-08-29 19:28 ` Arrigo Triulzi
2018-08-29 20:14 ` Grant Taylor via TUHS
2018-09-06 2:11 ` Ed Carp
2018-09-06 5:07 ` Grant Taylor via TUHS
2018-09-06 18:22 ` Clem Cole
2018-08-31 1:12 ` Cornelius Keck
2018-08-29 18:38 ` [TUHS] RetroNet… William Pechter
2018-08-29 18:54 ` Grant Taylor via TUHS
2018-08-29 20:21 ` Warren Toomey
2018-08-29 20:27 ` Arthur Krewat
2018-08-30 0:02 ` Dave Horsfall
2018-09-03 7:21 ` Ed Carp
2018-09-03 23:01 ` Dave Horsfall
2018-09-04 8:52 ` Derek Fawcus
2018-09-04 22:18 ` Grant Taylor via TUHS
2018-09-05 5:17 ` Ed Carp
2018-08-29 20:22 ` Warren Toomey
2018-08-31 1:15 ` Cornelius Keck
2018-08-31 1:37 ` [TUHS] RetroNet… Virtual is cheap William Pechter
2018-08-31 16:24 ` Cornelius Keck
2018-08-31 17:31 ` Grant Taylor via TUHS
2018-08-31 17:36 ` William Pechter
2018-09-01 0:40 ` Dave Horsfall
[not found] ` <0b739af0-da9e-6bdb-fe17-6f2dda837de5@spamtrap.tnetconsulting.net>
[not found] ` <20180901222055.GA71355@server.rulingia.com>
2018-09-10 6:35 ` [TUHS] [COFF] " Dave Horsfall
2018-08-31 5:06 ` [TUHS] RetroNet… Grant Taylor via TUHS
2018-08-31 16:24 ` Cornelius Keck
2018-08-30 17:54 ` Michael Kjörling
2018-08-30 18:11 ` Grant Taylor via TUHS
2018-08-30 18:15 ` [TUHS] RetroNet??? Larry McVoy
2018-08-30 18:15 ` Grant Taylor via TUHS
2018-08-30 23:42 ` [TUHS] RetroNet… Dave Horsfall
2018-08-31 4:13 ` Grant Taylor via TUHS
2018-08-31 1:09 ` Cornelius Keck
2018-08-31 4:17 ` Grant Taylor via TUHS
2018-09-02 22:45 ` Derek Fawcus
2018-09-02 23:29 ` Grant Taylor via TUHS
2018-09-03 1:11 ` jsteve
2018-09-03 7:02 ` Jeffrey H. Johnson
2018-09-03 8:24 ` jsteve [this message]
2018-09-03 16:42 ` Grant Taylor via TUHS
2018-08-30 18:05 ` Donald ODona
2018-08-30 18:17 ` Grant Taylor via TUHS
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