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Ip=[59.148.14.54]; Helo=[exchange.superglobalmegacorp.local] X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-FromEntityHeader: HybridOnPrem X-MS-Exchange-Transport-CrossTenantHeadersStamped: TY2PR02MB4253 Subject: Re: [TUHS] Old 386 Unix Versions, was: Re: PCC for the i386 X-BeenThere: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 Precedence: list List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: "tuhs@tuhs.org" Errors-To: tuhs-bounces@minnie.tuhs.org Sender: "TUHS" --_8C69D358-3018-4DC7-BC12-01E48B1446EA_ Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Funny you mention that, I recently pulled this ad from SUN: https://books.google.com.hk/books/content?id=3DGTwEAAAAMBAJ&hl=3Den-US&rvie= w=3D1&pg=3DPT8&img=3D1&zoom=3D3&sig=3DACfU3U0g2GS1KStkA6HXup3UG31UQdNcwg&w= =3D1280 These days, there=E2=80=99s absolutely no limit to the things you can add t= o your PCs. Coprocessors. VGA cards. Large scale monitors. Network cards. But no matter how many thousands of dollars you pour into your PCs, they st= ill can=E2=80=99t give you what you get with every Sun workstation. The scr= eaming-hot performance. The multi-tasking. The high-resolution graphics. An= d the built-in networking. And now, we=E2=80=99re introducing a new workstation that makes all the sho= rtcomings of your PCs even more obvious. SPARCstation=E2=84=A2 IPC. At $8,995*, it=E2=80=99s the lowest cost, full-color RISC workstation in th= e world. By far. In fact, it=E2=80=99s about the same price as a high-perfo= rmance 386 PC. But just look at the difference=E2=80=A6. Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: Larry McVoy Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2019 11:11 PM To: arnold@skeeve.com Cc: tuhs@tuhs.org Subject: Re: [TUHS] Old 386 Unix Versions, was: Re: PCC for the i386 On Wed, Jul 17, 2019 at 02:10:14AM -0600, arnold@skeeve.com wrote: > emanuel stiebler wrote: >=20 > > On 2019-07-11 18:50, A. P. Garcia wrote: > > > On Thu, Jul 11, 2019 at 12:31 PM Clem cole wrote: > > > > > Did Sun have anything to do with that? I seem to recall something > > > called "Interactive Unix" for the 386, possibly marketed by Sun... > > > > "Interactive Unix" was pretty nice back than. > > Anybody remembers ESIX? Still have the document wall for that ... > > > > Cheers > > >=20 > Sun had a '386 based system in early 90s-ish called the Road Runner. > I never saw it. It ran SunOS 4.x and I think was discontinued by the > time Solaris 2.x came along. Yep, can confirm. I was a fan but the powers that were at Sun at the time just didn't want competition for SPARC. Which was sort of silly, a 386 was nowhere near as fast as the SPARC chips of the day, that was when RISC actually made sense. But perhaps they had a crystal ball and could see that x86 was going to be as fast or faster down the road? I tend to doubt it, they really looked down on the 386. --_8C69D358-3018-4DC7-BC12-01E48B1446EA_ Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset="utf-8"

Funny you mention that, I recently p= ulled this ad from SUN:

 

https://boo= ks.google.com.hk/books/content?id=3DGTwEAAAAMBAJ&hl=3Den-US&rview= =3D1&pg=3DPT8&img=3D1&zoom=3D3&sig=3DACfU3U0g2GS1KStkA6HXup= 3UG31UQdNcwg&w=3D1280

 = ;

These days, there=E2=80=99s absolutely no l= imit to the things you can add to your PCs. Coprocessors. VGA cards. Large = scale monitors. Network cards.

But no ma= tter how many thousands of dollars you pour into your PCs, they still can= =E2=80=99t give you what you get with every Sun workstation. The screaming-= hot performance. The multi-tasking. The high-resolution graphics. And the b= uilt-in networking.

And now, we=E2=80=99= re introducing a new workstation that makes all the shortcomings of your PC= s even more obvious.

SPARCstation=E2=84= =A2 IPC.

At $8,995*, it=E2=80=99s the lo= west cost, full-color RISC workstation in the world. By far. In fact, it=E2= =80=99s about the same price as a high-performance 386 PC. But just look at= the difference=E2=80=A6.

 

 

Sent = from Mail = for Windows 10

 

From: Larry McVoy
Sent: = Wednesday, July 17, 2019 11:11 PM
To: arnold@skeeve.com
Cc: tuhs@tuhs.org
Subject: Re: [TUHS] Old 386 Unix Versio= ns, was: Re: PCC for the i386

 

On Wed, Jul 17, 2019 at 02:10:14AM -0600, arnold= @skeeve.com wrote:

> emanuel stiebler <emu@e-= bbes.com> wrote:

>

&= gt; > On 2019-07-11 18:50, A. P. Garcia wrote:

&= gt; > > On Thu, Jul 11, 2019 at 12:31 PM Clem cole <clemc@ccc.com&= gt; wrote:

> >

> &= gt; > Did Sun have anything to do with that? I seem to recall something<= /p>

> > > called "Interactive Unix" = for the 386, possibly marketed by Sun...

> ><= /p>

> > "Interactive Unix" was pretty n= ice back than.

> > Anybody remembers ESIX? St= ill have the document wall for that ...

> >

> > Cheers

> >

>

> Sun had a '386 ba= sed system in early 90s-ish called the Road Runner.

> I never saw it. It ran SunOS 4.x and I think was discontinued by the<= /p>

> time Solaris 2.x came along.

 

Yep, can confirm.=C2=A0 I = was a fan but the powers that were at Sun at the

ti= me just didn't want competition for SPARC.=C2=A0 Which was sort of silly,

a 386 was nowhere near as fast as the SPARC chips of= the day, that was

when RISC actually made sense.= =C2=A0 But perhaps they had a crystal ball

and coul= d see that x86 was going to be as fast or faster down the

road?=C2=A0 I tend to doubt it, they really looked down on the 386.<= /p>

 

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