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([2601:245:4680:1950:d29f:ed07:7b5d:4b73]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id t4-20020a056902018400b00d20d4ffbbdbsm265961ybh.0.2023.08.03.16.54.34 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 bits=128/128); Thu, 03 Aug 2023 16:54:34 -0700 (PDT) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------gV4T2SqXwWbKSWGhx6w8Hcby" Message-ID: Date: Thu, 3 Aug 2023 18:54:33 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:102.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/102.13.0 Content-Language: en-US To: Larry McVoy , Phil Budne References: <8246.1690761540@cesium.clock.org> <29602.1690887524@cesium.clock.org> <20230803005106.GA12652@mcvoy.com> <202308031657.373GvVvW008640@ultimate.com> <20230803234702.GC11023@mcvoy.com> From: Will Senn In-Reply-To: <20230803234702.GC11023@mcvoy.com> Message-ID-Hash: JF4W7D3EIT2FVJJOKQHKGEKDT4VSNXFQ X-Message-ID-Hash: JF4W7D3EIT2FVJJOKQHKGEKDT4VSNXFQ X-MailFrom: will.senn@gmail.com X-Mailman-Rule-Misses: dmarc-mitigation; no-senders; approved; emergency; loop; banned-address; member-moderation; nonmember-moderation; administrivia; implicit-dest; max-recipients; max-size; news-moderation; no-subject; digests; suspicious-header CC: tuhs@tuhs.org X-Mailman-Version: 3.3.6b1 Precedence: list Subject: [TUHS] Re: [TULSA] Re: python List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list Archived-At: List-Archive: List-Help: List-Owner: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------gV4T2SqXwWbKSWGhx6w8Hcby Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On 8/3/23 18:47, Larry McVoy wrote: > On Thu, Aug 03, 2023 at 12:57:31PM -0400, Phil Budne wrote: >> On the subject of "no printf", there is not one, not two, but THREE >> ways to format strings, easily compounded with print: >> >> print("%s %s" % ("hello", "world")) >> print("{1} {two}".format("hello", two="world")) >> print(f"{greeting} {populace}") >> >> I'm pretty sure the last method (which initially made me vomit, due to > All of those make me vomit. Pretty much every sane language has printf. Tell us how you really feel :). But, I couldn't agree more. I worked really hard to get printf and sprintf down and then folks started doing it "right" and "better" or renaming it but watering it down - ugh! I say, we picket. --------------gV4T2SqXwWbKSWGhx6w8Hcby Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
On 8/3/23 18:47, Larry McVoy wrote:
On Thu, Aug 03, 2023 at 12:57:31PM -0400, Phil Budne wrote:

On the subject of "no printf", there is not one, not two, but THREE
ways to format strings, easily compounded with print:

	print("%s %s" % ("hello", "world"))
	print("{1} {two}".format("hello", two="world"))
	print(f"{greeting} {populace}")

I'm pretty sure the last method (which initially made me vomit, due to

All of those make me vomit.  Pretty much every sane language has printf.
Tell us how you really feel :). But, I couldn't agree more. I worked really hard to get printf and sprintf down and then folks started doing it "right" and "better" or renaming it but watering it down - ugh! I say, we picket.
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