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* [TUHS] ksh88 source code?
@ 2020-12-22 22:43 Warren Toomey
  2020-12-22 23:01 ` Clem Cole
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  0 siblings, 4 replies; 33+ messages in thread
From: Warren Toomey @ 2020-12-22 22:43 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: tuhs

Hi all, I received an e-mail looking for the ksh-88 source code. A quick
search for it on-line doesn't reveal it. Does anybody have a copy?

Cheers, Warren

Original e-mail:
   I recently built a PiDP11 and have been enjoying going back in time
   to 2.11BSD..  I was at UC Davis in the the early 1980's and we had
   a few PDP-11/70's running 2.8/2.9 BSD. Back then we reached out to
   David Korn and he sent us the source for KSH -- this would have been
   in 1985ish if I remember, and we compiled it for 2.9 & 4.1BSD, Xenix,
   and some other variants that used K&R C.  It may have been what was
   later called ksh88.  I wish I still had the files from then..

   I was wondering if you might know if there's an older version like this
   or one that's been ported for 2.11BSD?
   Many thanks,
   Joe

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* Re: [TUHS] ksh88 source code?
@ 2021-12-22 14:40 Norman Wilson
  2021-12-23 17:23 ` John Cowan
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 33+ messages in thread
From: Norman Wilson @ 2021-12-22 14:40 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: tuhs

Thomas Paulsen:

  bash is clearly more advanced. ksh is retro computing.

====

Shell wars are, in the end, no more interesting than editor wars.

I use bash on Linux systems because it's the least-poorly
supported of the Bourne-family shells, besides which bash
is there by default.  Ksh isn't.

I use ksh on OpenBSD systems because it's the least-poorly
supported of the Bourne-family shells, besides which kh
is there by default.  Bash isn't.

I don't actually care for most of the extra crap in either
of those shells.  I don't want my shell to do line editing
or auto-completion, and I find the csh-derived history
mechanisms more annoying than useful so I turn them off
too.  To my mind, the Research 10/e sh had it about right,
including the simple way functions were exported and the
whatis built-in that told you whether something was a
variable or a shell function or an external executable,
and printed the first two in forms easily edited on the
screen and re-used.

Terminal programs that don't let you easily edit input
or output from the screen and re-send it, and programs
that abet them by spouting gratuitous ANSI control
sequences: now THAT's what I call retro-computing.

Probably further discussion of any of this belongs in
COFF.

Norman Wilson
Toronto ON

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* Re: [TUHS] ksh88 source code?
@ 2021-12-23 19:10 Norman Wilson
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 33+ messages in thread
From: Norman Wilson @ 2021-12-23 19:10 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: tuhs

John Cowan:

  Unfortunately, approximately nobody except you has access to
  [the 10/e sh] man page.  Can you post or email it?

===

I am happy to remind you that you're a few years out of date:

https://minnie.tuhs.org/cgi-bin/utree.pl?file=V10/man/man1/sh.1

Norman Wilson
Toronto ON

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2020-12-22 22:43 [TUHS] ksh88 source code? Warren Toomey
2020-12-22 23:01 ` Clem Cole
2020-12-23  1:29   ` John P. Linderman
2020-12-23 22:57     ` Warren Toomey
2020-12-23  3:30 ` Rico Pajarola
2020-12-23  9:03   ` Thomas Paulsen
2020-12-23  9:14     ` Rico Pajarola
2020-12-23  5:46 ` Scot Jenkins via TUHS
2020-12-23  7:19   ` Efton Collins
2021-12-21 13:55     ` Cyrille Lefevre via TUHS
2021-12-21 16:21       ` Larry McVoy
2021-12-21 16:27         ` Warner Losh
2021-12-21 17:15           ` Grant Taylor via TUHS
2021-12-21 17:31             ` Boyd Lynn Gerber
2021-12-21 19:09               ` Richard Salz
2021-12-22  6:23             ` jason-tuhs
2021-12-24 22:51               ` Grant Taylor via TUHS
2021-12-24 23:15                 ` Richard Salz
2021-12-24 23:34                 ` Michael Huff
2021-12-21 16:42         ` John Cowan
2021-12-21 16:47           ` Chet Ramey
2021-12-21 17:09             ` John Cowan
2021-12-22 11:11           ` Cyrille Lefevre via TUHS
2021-12-21 22:15         ` Thomas Paulsen
2021-12-22  7:44           ` arnold
2021-12-22 14:35           ` Cyrille Lefevre via TUHS
2021-12-22 14:36             ` Chet Ramey
2021-12-23 13:39       ` [TUHS] Bourne shell source code (was Re: ksh88 source code?) Cyrille Lefevre via TUHS
2020-12-23  6:56 ` [TUHS] ksh88 source code? arnold
2021-12-22 14:40 Norman Wilson
2021-12-23 17:23 ` John Cowan
2021-12-23 20:08   ` silas poulson
2021-12-23 19:10 Norman Wilson

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