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[80.229.223.47]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id u4sm24729450wmg.41.2019.10.12.13.42.24 for (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Sat, 12 Oct 2019 13:42:25 -0700 (PDT) To: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org References: <20191010131848.C13DC18C08B@mercury.lcs.mit.edu> From: Tony Travis Message-ID: Date: Sat, 12 Oct 2019 21:42:24 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/60.9.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [TUHS] Welcome to new TUHS subscribers X-BeenThere: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 Precedence: list List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: tuhs-bounces@minnie.tuhs.org Sender: "TUHS" On 12/10/2019 20:39, Nemo Nusquam wrote: > On 10/10/19 22:46, Dave Horsfall wrote: >> On Thu, 10 Oct 2019, Noel Chiappa wrote: >> >>> DEC documentation mostly used uppercase in the text; e.g. the "pdp11 >>> peripherals handbook" (to transcribe the cover exactly) uses "PDP-11" >>> several times on pg 1-1. >> >> And being an acronym it is of course upper-case... > > At the risk of being labelled a pedant. from the OED: Hi, Nemo. It takes one to know one! > https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/acronym What is interesting about this definition is that an 'acronym' is pronounced as a word (i.e. not spelled out as letters). So, from that point of view PDP-11 is an 'initialism' and not an acronym :-) > https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/initialism Which opens up a whole area of controversy about how to pronounce: vi In my experience, research users and hackers spell it out as "vee eye" as originally described by Bill Joy, but business/enterprise users tend to pronounce it as "vye" instead. Well, I'm a research *nix user so I spell "vi" out, but my dark secret is that I do pronounce "vim" as a full word and don't spell it out... I suppose this is just about recognition of a suitable peer group that agree, but it really sets my teeth on edge when people pronounce "vi"! Anyone else got pet hates about how people pronounce *nix commands? There are many pointless discussions about this already on the Internet, so please only post comments here of historical interest like mine :-) Bye, Tony. -- Minke Informatics Limited, Registered in Scotland - Company No. SC419028 Registered Office: 3 Donview, Bridge of Alford, AB33 8QJ, Scotland (UK) tel. +44(0)19755 63548 http://minke-informatics.co.uk mob. +44(0)7985 078324 mailto:tony.travis@minke-informatics.co.uk