From: pete@nomadlogic.org (Pete Wright)
Subject: [TUHS] rm command
Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2018 11:17:45 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <c97f4604-7e46-3e34-f1d0-5ed58763c5ff@nomadlogic.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.BSF.2.02.1804271412490.38781@frieza.hoshinet.org>
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On 04/27/2018 11:14, Steve Nickolas wrote:
> On Sat, 28 Apr 2018, Dave Horsfall wrote:
>
>> On Wed, 25 Apr 2018, Noel Chiappa wrote:
>>
>>> On early PDP-11 Unixes, 'rm' is an ordinary program, and 'rmdir' is
>>> setuid-root, since it has to do special magic (writing into
>>> directory files, etc). Given that, it made sense to have 'rm' run
>>> with the least amount of privilege needed to do its job.
>>
>> I am constantly bemused by the number of "setuid root" commands, when
>> a simple "setgid whatever" will achieve the same task.
>>
>> My mantra has always been: "If you think you need setuid root, then
>> you are probably thinking wrong."
>>
>> My favourite here is the "ps" command:
>>
>> On my FreeBSD server:
>>
>> % ls -l /bin/ps
>> -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel 35640 Oct 15 2017 /bin/ps
>>
>> On my crappy MacBook:
>>
>> % ls -l /bin/ps
>> -rwsr-xr-x 1 root wheel 51200 Jul 15 2017 /bin/ps
>>
>> (I didn't check my Penguin box, because I don't think that I'll like
>> what I'll see.)
>>
>> -- Dave
>>
>
> Debian 9:
>
> nicci at jesustheasus:~$ ls -l $(which ps)
> -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 129336 Nov 22 2016 /bin/ps
>
> Debian 8 kFreeBSD:
>
> [usotsuki at licca ~]$ ls -l $(which ps)
> -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 93088 Mar 6 2015 /bin/ps
>
interesting how the gnu userland marks ps as owner-writable, not sure it
matters, but interesting...
-p
--
Pete Wright
pete at nomadlogic.org
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2018-04-27 18:17 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2018-04-25 22:17 Noel Chiappa
2018-04-27 16:26 ` Dave Horsfall
2018-04-27 16:58 ` Ian Zimmerman
2018-04-27 18:14 ` Steve Nickolas
2018-04-27 18:17 ` Pete Wright [this message]
2018-04-28 16:33 ` Michael Kjörling
2018-04-28 18:01 ` Ian Zimmerman
2018-04-28 18:51 ` Derek Fawcus
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2018-04-27 16:42 Noel Chiappa
2018-04-26 2:19 Doug McIlroy
2018-04-26 9:41 ` Ralph Corderoy
2018-04-25 20:22 Eric Blood
2018-04-25 21:23 ` Ralph Corderoy
2018-04-25 21:33 ` John P. Linderman
2018-04-25 21:53 ` William Corcoran
2018-04-25 21:58 ` Derek Fawcus
2018-04-25 22:09 ` Ralph Corderoy
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