From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: krewat@kilonet.net (Arthur Krewat) Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2017 12:32:55 -0500 Subject: [TUHS] Oracle euthanizes Solaris 12, expunging it from roadmap In-Reply-To: References: <1484812418.3800555.852554160.1638329B@webmail.messagingengine.com> <1484815787.58807daba38e0@www.paradise.net.nz> <5881f368.ZrpDJbpXm3DIAAjJ%schily@schily.net> <1484918800.4043318.854019536.3CB39B4A@webmail.messagingengine.com> <58821d5d.xUgQiZSe3DhW87+W%schily@schily.net> <2684AF1F-8B33-4646-BF9C-0FCAD6C70D5A@tfeb.org> Message-ID: Take another look at Solaris 11 - the pkg command is basically the same thing. Install PHP, MYSQL, Apache, update the system, do almost anything. I've booted Solaris 11 on a slew of servers and PC's since it came out. From Intel SATA to LSI SAS, Emulex fiber channel cards, Qlogic fiber cards, Intel 10Gbe NICs, etc. It just "works". While you had to pay attention to the HCL back in the Solaris 7/8/9 and early 10 days, and adjust accordingly, Solaris has been pretty decent in the past few years in terms of hardware compatibility. Except for one horrid instance where the Emulex driver would fail if virtualization was turned on - but in 11.3, that seems to have been fixed (or, the hardware changed, I installed it on newer M630 Dell hardware). For the "desktop" however, I just don't use it as a desktop. Windows won that war for me. As for performance, I'll have to look into that - I remember a while back that Oracle's best practices for it's database was to turn off NUMA under Linux, but not Solaris. Either way, virtualization (VMware mostly) has made that a moot point in many of the environments I administer. On 1/20/2017 8:58 PM, Rico Pajarola wrote: > And there's another kind of elegance in being able to boot Linux on > any random PC and have at least graphics, network, and storage work > out of the box (most of the time anyway. Solaris never stood a chance > on that front). Software gets installed with a simple "yum install > foo" or "apt-get install foo" command. At some point Solaris also lost > the performance race and that was pretty much it.