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From: bqt@update.uu.se (Johnny Billquist)
Subject: [TUHS] Emacs and undump
Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2017 22:06:10 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <d3652fe6-7e96-c97f-629a-b43ffbeee592@update.uu.se> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <86efyjpehy.fsf@molnjunk.nocrew.org>

On 2017-02-27 21:26, Lars Brinkhoff wrote:
> Johnny Billquist wrote:
>> But having the memory around for a program, even if it is not running,
>> is actually sometimes very useful. If ITS could handle that, while
>> treating them as separate processes, all associated to one terminal,
>> and let you select which one you were currently fooling around in,
>> while the others stayed around, that is something I don't think I've
>> seen elsewhere.
>
> And it's not just a list structure, but a tree.  You can e.g. start a
> new DDT, which itself can have inferior jobs (subprocesses).

Hmm. That sounds similar to TOPS-20 then maybe.

>> So, Emacs does it once, and then saves the state at the point where
>> you can start editing.  But it does not mean that the memory is
>> shareable. It's full of various data structures, and code, and that
>> will change as you go along editing things as well.
>
> Much is sharable.  There's a concept of purification (which also comes
> from ITS).  A purecopy() function is used in temacs to put read-only
> data in a special memory area.  That area will become sharable in the
> dumped Emacs.

There are definitely some shareable things, but you need to remember 
that even some pure, read-only data can be problematic in a shared 
segment, as not all people might even have that data loaded, even if the 
data itself is readonly.

	Johnny

-- 
Johnny Billquist                  || "I'm on a bus
                                   ||  on a psychedelic trip
email: bqt at softjar.se             ||  Reading murder books
pdp is alive!                     ||  tryin' to stay hip" - B. Idol


  reply	other threads:[~2017-02-27 21:06 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <mailman.346.1488208394.3779.tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org>
2017-02-27 20:09 ` Johnny Billquist
2017-02-27 20:26   ` Lars Brinkhoff
2017-02-27 21:06     ` Johnny Billquist [this message]
     [not found] <mailman.342.1488180370.3779.tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org>
2017-02-27 10:24 ` Johnny Billquist
2017-02-27 10:30   ` Lars Brinkhoff
2017-02-27 10:47     ` Johnny Billquist
2017-02-27 14:04       ` Arthur Krewat
2017-02-28 11:55         ` Ronald Natalie
     [not found] <mailman.334.1488132096.3779.tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org>
2017-02-26 19:16 ` David
2017-02-26 19:28   ` Mantas Mikulėnas
2017-02-27  6:41   ` Tim Bradshaw
2017-02-27  7:19     ` Lars Brinkhoff
2017-02-27  7:26       ` Warner Losh
2017-02-27  8:12         ` Nick Downing
2017-02-27 14:33           ` Derek Fawcus
2017-02-27 14:50             ` Nick Downing
2017-02-27 15:43               ` Derek Fawcus
2017-02-27 16:43             ` Joerg Schilling
     [not found]               ` <CAH1jEzZjvOhHnbvsWcw8gbx9d_W47DbBidYd_tteCr5dC6H2ng@mail.gmail.com>
2017-02-28  0:02                 ` Nick Downing
2017-02-27 12:59       ` tfb
2017-02-27 10:35   ` Joerg Schilling
2017-02-27 15:13     ` Tony Finch

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