From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.1 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_SIGNED,DKIM_VALID, DKIM_VALID_AU,HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS,MAILING_LIST_MULTI, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (minnie.tuhs.org [45.79.103.53]) by inbox.vuxu.org (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTP id adf3f0f5 for ; Mon, 4 Feb 2019 00:11:16 +0000 (UTC) Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id 6853F9B8A0; Mon, 4 Feb 2019 10:11:15 +1000 (AEST) Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 09D209B892; Mon, 4 Feb 2019 10:10:58 +1000 (AEST) Authentication-Results: minnie.tuhs.org; dkim=pass (1024-bit key; unprotected) header.d=kilonet.net header.i=@kilonet.net header.b="KAqAOH40"; dkim-atps=neutral Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id 9A9DA9B892; Mon, 4 Feb 2019 10:10:55 +1000 (AEST) Received: from p3plsmtpa06-07.prod.phx3.secureserver.net (p3plsmtpa06-07.prod.phx3.secureserver.net [173.201.192.108]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9EE889B891 for ; Mon, 4 Feb 2019 10:10:54 +1000 (AEST) Received: from medusa.kilonet.net ([72.69.11.12]) by :SMTPAUTH: with ESMTPA id qRqfgbRqzOYjiqRqggDoAY; Sun, 03 Feb 2019 17:10:54 -0700 Received: from [199.89.231.101] (ender.kilonet.net [199.89.231.101]) by medusa.kilonet.net (8.14.8/8.15.1) with ESMTP id x140Ar5P024951 for ; Sun, 3 Feb 2019 19:10:53 -0500 (EST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=kilonet.net; s=default; t=1549239053; bh=SOtU6nGjqNt+dBLmkHmlBg/6rIhr98LwKcpgIWrexZ0=; h=Subject:To:References:From:Date:In-Reply-To; b=KAqAOH40hl66e1E2ZPNQDXsDvckvsOXpp3p1uQKyOX+PS+fmoNsnTJPbGr+6pdL+b dYWutV06xcl90MOK8Lem+MKpGZTzmOyXelkhjBjWmv8fDvneJvar7QDV3kFg16ETzk 3yUnElImKA4hCINd+GnEmCXmc9FCvAe+efsN7nTc= To: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org References: <20190203150237.A869418C07A@mercury.lcs.mit.edu> From: Arthur Krewat Message-ID: Date: Sun, 3 Feb 2019 19:10:50 -0500 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/60.5.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Language: en-US X-CMAE-Envelope: MS4wfBrWA5pisErwii4svPCqQfemAQvESE02Fi1TG7kf4/7VmHNAzCC2mUynb0MN4GmyETwFMwunIl4dKhHeJB4y+IE5L1d7oBE3PyiZW8lOl0o1RwCWggAg rt1KW2vykXSlRXKsiqqbnX16cyqmF3Xn4j98lyNtyq+0TQkM5qDCNTxp Subject: Re: [TUHS] Signal/noise (Was: OSI stack (Was: Posters)) X-BeenThere: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 Precedence: list List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: tuhs-bounces@minnie.tuhs.org Sender: "TUHS" On 2/3/2019 6:33 PM, Mantas Mikulėnas wrote: > > With apologies for the outburst: > > When I first subscribed to tuhs several years ago (even though I don't > really belong in here; I'm younger than even Linux, much less any of > the Unixen), I *very much* enjoyed reading the various stories about > UUCP, about Sun, about X11, VMS, ARPAnet – often first-hand tales, no > less. > > So I don't know what counts as 'signal' on this list versus 'noise', > but I'd much rather read a million posts about OSI, CLNP and other > networks – a history lesson and information that's been getting scarce > in general – than kill/mute yet another thread full of generic "boo M$ > Windoze" drivel that I can already find on Reddit. > > I concur. However, discussions of how many necks Jimmy Page's guitar had were pretty much way off topic. I mean, really, THREE? Led Zeppelin was slightly before my time (I'm 53). But who doesn't know it was only two? ;) art k.