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Ip=[59.148.14.54]; Helo=[exchange.superglobalmegacorp.local] X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-FromEntityHeader: HybridOnPrem X-MS-Exchange-Transport-CrossTenantHeadersStamped: PS1PR0201MB2073 Subject: Re: [TUHS] Old 386 Unix Versions, was: Re: PCC for the i386 X-BeenThere: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 Precedence: list List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: "tuhs@tuhs.org" Errors-To: tuhs-bounces@minnie.tuhs.org Sender: "TUHS" --_3FAE0939-B97A-4E8E-B6F9-69637C6B96EA_ Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" The only non American one I was aware of came from Brazil, TROPIX. http://allegro.nce.ufrj.br/tropix/index.html I=E2=80=99d written a small thing about it here https://virtuallyfun.com/wordpress/2009/06/18/tropix/ I=E2=80=99ve seen mention of something out of Sweden, although nothing conc= rete on the name. There is also =D0=94=D0=B5=D0=BC=D0=BE=D1=81/DEMOS the BSD code that had be= en stolen during the cold war, and ported to various Soviet machines & loca= lized. Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: Arrigo Triulzi Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2019 6:01 PM To: arnold@skeeve.com Cc: tuhs@tuhs.org Subject: Re: [TUHS] Old 386 Unix Versions, was: Re: PCC for the i386 On 17 Jul 2019, at 10:10, arnold@skeeve.com wrote: >=20 > emanuel stiebler wrote: >=20 >> On 2019-07-11 18:50, A. P. Garcia wrote: >>> On Thu, Jul 11, 2019 at 12:31 PM Clem cole wrote: >>=20 >>> Did Sun have anything to do with that? I seem to recall something >>> called "Interactive Unix" for the 386, possibly marketed by Sun... >>=20 >> "Interactive Unix" was pretty nice back than. >> Anybody remembers ESIX? Still have the document wall for that ... >>=20 >> Cheers >>=20 >=20 > Sun had a '386 based system in early 90s-ish called the Road Runner. > I never saw it. It ran SunOS 4.x and I think was discontinued by the > time Solaris 2.x came along. >=20 > And, I *do* remember ESIX. We used it for our product at a startup > company I worked for. Initially System V R3 based, IIRC, and then > eventually SVR4; I think we saw an improvement moving to the > BSD fast file system. Does anyone have documentation or history for European efforts in the Unix-= like operating systems? For example there was Bull=E2=80=99s Chorus which I= seem to recall was based on Mach or a competing microkernel (it was a very= long time ago and I used it for no mare than about two hours..). I am rather saddened by the fact that there is so much about all the Unix (= and not only Unix) history of computing in the USA and so very little in Eu= rope. I wouldn=E2=80=99t even know where to start, to be honest, all I have= as a history is the Italian side from my father and his other mad friends = and colleagues in Milan. So little of it is recorded, never mind written do= wn. Arrigo --_3FAE0939-B97A-4E8E-B6F9-69637C6B96EA_ Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset="utf-8"

The only non American one I was aware of came from Brazil, TROPIX.=

http://allegro.nce.ufrj= .br/tropix/index.html

 

I=E2=80=99d written a small thin= g about it here

https://virtuallyfun.com/wordpress/2009/06/18/tropix/

 =

I=E2=80=99ve seen mention of something out of Sweden, although nothing con= crete on the name.

 

There is also =D0=94=D0=B5=D0=BC=D0=BE= =D1=81/DEMOS the BSD code that had been stolen during the cold war, and por= ted to various Soviet machines & localized.

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Arrigo Triulzi
Sent: We= dnesday, July 17, 2019 6:01 PM
To: arnold@skeeve.com
Cc: tuhs@tuhs.org
Subject: Re: [TUHS] Old 386 Unix Versions, was= : Re: PCC for the i386

 

<= p class=3DMsoNormal>On 17 Jul 2019, at 10:10, arnold@skeeve.com wrote:

<= p class=3DMsoNormal>>

> emanuel stiebler <= ;emu@e-bbes.com> wrote:

>

>> On 2019-07-11 18:50, A. P. Garcia wrote:

>>> On Thu, Jul 11, 2019 at 12:31 PM Clem cole <clemc@ccc.= com> wrote:

>>

&g= t;>> Did Sun have anything to do with that? I seem to recall somethin= g

>>> called "Interactive Unix" = for the 386, possibly marketed by Sun...

>> <= /p>

>> "Interactive Unix" was pretty ni= ce back than.

>> Anybody remembers ESIX? Stil= l have the document wall for that ...

>>

=

>> Cheers

>>

<= p class=3DMsoNormal>>

> Sun had a '386 based= system in early 90s-ish called the Road Runner.

&g= t; I never saw it. It ran SunOS 4.x and I think was discontinued by the

=

> time Solaris 2.x came along.

>

> And, I *do* remember ESIX. We used i= t for our product at a startup

> company I worke= d for. Initially System V R3 based, IIRC, and then

= > eventually SVR4; I think we saw an improvement moving to the

> BSD fast file system.

&nbs= p;

Does anyone have documentation or history = for European efforts in the Unix-like operating systems? For example there = was Bull=E2=80=99s Chorus which I seem to recall was based on Mach or a com= peting microkernel (it was a very long time ago and I used it for no mare t= han about two hours..).

 

I am rather saddened by the fact that there is so much about= all the Unix (and not only Unix) history of computing in the USA and so ve= ry little in Europe. I wouldn=E2=80=99t even know where to start, to be hon= est, all I have as a history is the Italian side from my father and his oth= er mad friends and colleagues in Milan. So little of it is recorded, never = mind written down.

 

Arrigo

 

= = --_3FAE0939-B97A-4E8E-B6F9-69637C6B96EA_--