From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.1 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_SIGNED,DKIM_VALID, DKIM_VALID_AU,HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS,MAILING_LIST_MULTI, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (minnie.tuhs.org [45.79.103.53]) by inbox.vuxu.org (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTP id ee854d47 for ; Tue, 8 Jan 2019 16:44:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id EAB8DA3717; Wed, 9 Jan 2019 02:44:03 +1000 (AEST) Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0882694EB9; Wed, 9 Jan 2019 02:43:27 +1000 (AEST) Authentication-Results: minnie.tuhs.org; dkim=pass (1024-bit key; unprotected) header.d=bitmessage.ch header.i=@bitmessage.ch header.b="k5G3liWt"; dkim-atps=neutral Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id 716EC94EB9; Wed, 9 Jan 2019 02:43:24 +1000 (AEST) X-Greylist: delayed 1757 seconds by postgrey-1.36 at minnie.tuhs.org; Wed, 09 Jan 2019 02:43:21 AEST Received: from mail.bitmessage.ch (mail.bitmessage.ch [146.228.112.252]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 98B2094C66 for ; Wed, 9 Jan 2019 02:43:21 +1000 (AEST) dkim-signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=bitmessage.ch; s=mail; c=relaxed/relaxed; q=dns/txt; h=From:Subject:Date:Message-ID:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:In-Reply-To:References; bh=Ng1dnhalM42ahll2ssztAV/BQoGbu7wFpe+9Cq3lcLo=; b=k5G3liWtjZhAbf28cELH6RGBNoyJC4mmvJEdxbAtUBjfhI9AT3Bu+VOLBjQrrUdVKgLdyD7QgWyDJv4fRLATCAXwucQJcbhRiZR4jHT+3YohbJX5k4GLeO9LnJ9dt51WDL+OszccjMxaMPiT4G1dA7TfLbJqsPM6LW2KKdYxIx4= Received: from bitmessage.ch (BITMESSAGE [127.0.0.1]) by mail.bitmessage.ch with ESMTPA ; Tue, 8 Jan 2019 17:12:55 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Date: Tue, 08 Jan 2019 10:12:54 -0600 From: =?UTF-8?Q?C=C3=A1g?= To: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org In-Reply-To: <193D6345-8E32-49A6-8F16-A30672C222A8@csp-partnership.co.uk> References: <193D6345-8E32-49A6-8F16-A30672C222A8@csp-partnership.co.uk> Message-ID: X-Sender: ca6c@bitmessage.ch User-Agent: Roundcube Webmail/1.2.3 Subject: Re: [TUHS] off topic - capatob - saratov2 computer Russsian pdp8? HELP X-BeenThere: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 Precedence: list List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: tuhs-bounces@minnie.tuhs.org Sender: "TUHS" Dr Iain Maoileoin wrote: > Off topic, but looking for help and wisdom. > > If you visit https://www.scotnet.co.uk/iain/saratov you will see some > photos of work that I have started on the front panel of a Capatob2. > > I plan to get the switches and lights running on a blinkenbone board > with a PDP8 emulation behind it. (I already have an PDP11/70 > front-panel running on the same infrastructure) > > I have been struggling for over a year to get much info about this > saratov computer (circuit diagrams etc). So I have started the > reverse engineering on the panel. > > Does anybody know anything about this computer? online or offline it > would be much appreciated. Hi, It's Saratov, not Capatob (Cyrillic). Since it was made by Russians during the Soviet period, there's no wonder you can't find any documentation regarding it. It was made by CIME -- Central Institute of Measuring Equipment. The company is alive to this day, you can visit the website (in Russian) -- http://www.cime.ru/ or contact them at cime at cime dot ru, maybe you'll have some luck. There's a thread (in Russian) about it: http://www.nedopc.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=9778 From there I can see that it has FOCAL, Fotran, and assemblers, just like the PDP. On front in the center there are five lights that indicate the step counter. Saratov is a city on Volga where CIME is located -- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saratov -- caóc