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[173.63.250.229]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id d138-v6sm2829030qke.18.2018.08.29.12.43.02 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-CHACHA20-POLY1305 bits=256/256); Wed, 29 Aug 2018 12:43:02 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2018 15:43:00 -0400 From: William Pechter To: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org,Grant Taylor Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <16994a7b-84e6-3b20-c555-8216accd372e@spamtrap.tnetconsulting.net> References: <1535565898.3905695.1490376112.4B7D3E18@webmail.messagingengine.com> <6e7783fb-ff06-2e21-002f-76bef263b63c@spamtrap.tnetconsulting.net> <20180829183632.GD8423@mcvoy.com> <71fc9586-ad41-4471-ad78-617c85a68404.maildroid@localhost> <16994a7b-84e6-3b20-c555-8216accd372e@spamtrap.tnetconsulting.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: MailDroid/4.92 (Android 7.1.2) User-Agent: MailDroid/4.92 (Android 7.1.2) Subject: Re: [TUHS] RetroNet??? X-BeenThere: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: tuhs-bounces@minnie.tuhs.org Sender: "TUHS" They were 3 different 11/780s. The 785 was a (DEC Germany as the Field Ser= vice rumor went) 7400 Schotky rework of the 11/780 TTL as a midlife speed k= icker. IIRC, it had a higher clock and was about 1.5x the 780. The 11/782= was conjoined twin 11/780s in a master slave config. I heard of 11/787s d= one with dual 11/785s but never saw them in my Field Service days. Bill -----Original Message----- From: Grant Taylor via TUHS To: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org Sent: Wed, 29 Aug 2018 15:35 Subject: Re: [TUHS] RetroNet??? On 08/29/2018 01:00 PM, William Pechter wrote: > One thing that may make sense on the low power front... I emulated 3=20 > simultaneous Vaxes on one RasPi... Would those be independent VAXen? Or would they be different CPU=20 cabinets of a multi-CPU 780? Was that 785 or something like that? > If you are less than secure (BSD 4.X) at least the host can be up to date= =20 > with emulation. Running 4.2 with Sendmail 5 scares me. Emulated UUCP=20 > and maps less so. This is exactly why we want RetroNet to be a walled garden. Easy for=20 members to join and access yet separated from the Big Bad Internet=E2=84=A2= for=20 that very reason. --=20 Grant. . . . unix || die