From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.8 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_INVALID,DKIM_SIGNED, MAILING_LIST_MULTI autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: (qmail 16396 invoked from network); 7 Dec 2022 22:25:59 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (50.116.15.146) by inbox.vuxu.org with ESMTPUTF8; 7 Dec 2022 22:25:59 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CEE1642388; Thu, 8 Dec 2022 08:25:53 +1000 (AEST) Received: from wout3-smtp.messagingengine.com (wout3-smtp.messagingengine.com [64.147.123.19]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C9CBE42387 for ; Thu, 8 Dec 2022 08:25:49 +1000 (AEST) Received: from compute2.internal (compute2.nyi.internal [10.202.2.46]) by mailout.west.internal (Postfix) with ESMTP id E81FC320090F for ; Wed, 7 Dec 2022 17:25:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from imap49 ([10.202.2.99]) by compute2.internal (MEProxy); Wed, 07 Dec 2022 17:25:49 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=pobox.com; h=cc :content-transfer-encoding:content-type:date:date:from:from :in-reply-to:in-reply-to:message-id:mime-version:references :reply-to:sender:subject:subject:to:to; s=fm3; t=1670451948; x= 1670538348; bh=0/SEZiB+XGj+Oi7QcCbgNo93LXNAcsFe+gif+4ejowU=; b=E CT7aUYKzAlzUdMl1QvcA+4eJcuE3ZSvxIdJpjftaqbe6ePkBC8HBcHoZajiNqw2F IlOqbQw+A/edFZxOyd8dpDe7lmXLQn/RNGMnmTMOmNw2JLtSB7SL/oXy5H16Anj7 4gu54uqe92S/umpNff5GlMCkBNk+EaIjJF84YzkCzbz9lQLrF5VKhJdtmRmOhfZV TzAnwkf+fCLbE7KgwAnR/EJVrikTcvzIUSm4F+Vv907mvIxBfJuw1bUREYWuhHiI VvILV42J2kgZtooFBYmr98vjbuzEYQeLJu+VnXCAODTzCBVp0SJkhhs1oEj/6KoI cGiuLw1dvVOzykeCPV1Pg== DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d= messagingengine.com; h=cc:content-transfer-encoding:content-type :date:date:feedback-id:feedback-id:from:from:in-reply-to :in-reply-to:message-id:mime-version:references:reply-to:sender :subject:subject:to:to:x-me-proxy:x-me-proxy:x-me-sender :x-me-sender:x-sasl-enc; s=fm1; t=1670451948; x=1670538348; bh=0 /SEZiB+XGj+Oi7QcCbgNo93LXNAcsFe+gif+4ejowU=; b=prGutRFViASkeCWw8 1Ew3KT09iis1Le4vwQugcpH2I8uexYItCrO/RuIRl61gzx01IhjsIvrSOKLn/MUl ANBKoLSnzZ1k+LPORTn6JjG6JpU0P+8H4Y8pL9ZnraG6J8v8voKR/nffgxbC+wYe HP5WP3KpZlNCBvpeN6tkLmb5I+rz6jCvZUeEb6iZ/3FIJbYFzwOPD8+BbxYvcSE2 Gpk4HFzH41CiFzEtZPwDUN1VlFKBn0znBJ220SmP6MMEtM+TJoa8qO9Ris+D56/i 61k9vdAjjzy2+RmbCQCyRb2ztXo1WW0RPsceUIWQuaBQMSu8qkFE2lyrJpcOEuwm wAGKQ== X-ME-Sender: X-ME-Proxy-Cause: gggruggvucftvghtrhhoucdtuddrgedvhedrudekgdduieduucetufdoteggodetrfdotf fvucfrrhhofhhilhgvmecuhfgrshhtofgrihhlpdfqfgfvpdfurfetoffkrfgpnffqhgen uceurghilhhouhhtmecufedttdenucenucfjughrpefofgggkfgjfhffhffvufgtgfesth hqredtreerjeenucfhrhhomhepfdflohhsvghphhcujfholhhsthgvnhdfuceojhhoshgv phhhsehjohhsvghphhhhohhlshhtvghnrdgtohhmqeenucggtffrrghtthgvrhhnpedttd ffvdduffdtfedtiedugedufeegledvkeduiedtgfekveduhfeuledutefgueenucevlhhu shhtvghrufhiiigvpedtnecurfgrrhgrmhepmhgrihhlfhhrohhmpehjohhsvghphhesjh hoshgvphhhhhholhhsthgvnhdrtghomh X-ME-Proxy: Feedback-ID: i49d34368:Fastmail Received: by mailuser.nyi.internal (Postfix, from userid 501) id 02CEE15A0087; Wed, 7 Dec 2022 17:25:47 -0500 (EST) X-Mailer: MessagingEngine.com Webmail Interface User-Agent: Cyrus-JMAP/3.7.0-alpha0-1115-g8b801eadce-fm-20221102.001-g8b801ead Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 07 Dec 2022 14:25:27 -0800 From: "Joseph Holsten" To: tuhs@tuhs.org Content-Type: text/plain;charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-ID-Hash: QFQPIVDYDJ3XBNLVQ6AJG47HNTEQ3UMB X-Message-ID-Hash: QFQPIVDYDJ3XBNLVQ6AJG47HNTEQ3UMB X-MailFrom: joseph@josephholsten.com X-Mailman-Rule-Misses: dmarc-mitigation; no-senders; approved; emergency; loop; banned-address; member-moderation; header-match-tuhs.tuhs.org-0; nonmember-moderation; administrivia; implicit-dest; max-recipients; max-size; news-moderation; no-subject; digests; suspicious-header X-Mailman-Version: 3.3.6b1 Precedence: list Subject: [TUHS] Re: Flame award List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list Archived-At: List-Archive: List-Help: List-Owner: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Warren Toomey via TUHS wrote: > It still feels weird that Usenix chose me for the Flame award, given s= uch > greats as Doug, Margo, Radia and others have previously received the > same award. In reality, the award belongs to every TUHS member who has > contributed documents, source code, tape images, anecdotes, knowledge > and wisdom, and who have given their time and energy to help others > with problems. I've been a steward of a remarkable community over three > decades and I feel honoured and humbled to receive recognition for it. As someone who=E2=80=99s stewarded (and cat-herded) smaller communities = for less time, I can say that three decades of persistent community gard= ening is incredible. Sure, people show up, drop off their work, then dis= appear. Sometimes they hang around to chat, or show up when they need he= lp, maybe even occasionally get HYPERFIXATED and invest tremendous effor= t into a thing as part of the group. And maybe they fall away only to re= turn a decade later. But those people do it because they know the stability the organizer bri= ngs. How many random abandoned source drops are up in sourceforge or git= hub? I=E2=80=99m sure there=E2=80=99s a super specific distributed crypt= o internet relay chat mobile watch app channel that=E2=80=99s focused on= getting SVR4 derivatives bootstrapped onto ARM 64-bit platforms, but th= is mailing list existed before it and may well exist after. More importa= ntly, so will its archives. Kudos! -- Joseph Holsten