From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.6 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_INVALID,DKIM_SIGNED, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS,MAILING_LIST_MULTI,T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (minnie.tuhs.org [50.116.15.146]) by inbox.vuxu.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C338E26D69 for ; Thu, 13 Jun 2024 17:42:52 +0200 (CEST) Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B23B642A31; Fri, 14 Jun 2024 01:42:47 +1000 (AEST) Received: from fout8-smtp.messagingengine.com (fout8-smtp.messagingengine.com [103.168.172.151]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2754E42A17 for ; Fri, 14 Jun 2024 01:42:40 +1000 (AEST) Received: from compute5.internal (compute5.nyi.internal [10.202.2.45]) by mailfout.nyi.internal (Postfix) with ESMTP id 38CF913800ED; Thu, 13 Jun 2024 11:42:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: from imap45 ([10.202.2.95]) by compute5.internal (MEProxy); Thu, 13 Jun 2024 11:42:39 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=pobox.com; h=cc :cc:content-type:content-type:date:date:from:from:in-reply-to :in-reply-to:message-id:mime-version:references:reply-to:subject :subject:to:to; s=fm3; t=1718293359; x=1718379759; bh=WPl6pLWsBs 1I1/blphbSYVtUeDXPBl7fB75ZdrxBW+Q=; b=Geqw/iR0h0fz+XcKchQADRNbFb STw57NAPhS/xImLYSnQZC/GLRhXOjT9oOjmmG67h05t11XKyrDrtfJ5vTNEHbYpU jchwVqOC4BYxRdTVDLOtqDXRN4X53HIb/IDzhzbHnicSeMsjp1GWE/AisUCZqb1k C2WG8BOFUk9D7FTKSPJGDNDbNZqKJm7xG1kcOALAHTZRox8DaSZXMASEYEHRa/Of rPJWgYCwDnihnPy90n8htT/fRvU4UMP6+d6UD8goNFkKXaJ0WMmTZTxFTON5tqMe xy3eS1nijpw3vwFYwlyg5xDiH6O/yqwfvqA6p4tJhS2kL8oOU099PW2FN38g== DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d= messagingengine.com; h=cc:cc:content-type:content-type:date:date :feedback-id:feedback-id:from:from:in-reply-to:in-reply-to :message-id:mime-version:references:reply-to:subject:subject:to :to:x-me-proxy:x-me-proxy:x-me-sender:x-me-sender:x-sasl-enc; s= fm1; t=1718293359; x=1718379759; bh=WPl6pLWsBs1I1/blphbSYVtUeDXP Bl7fB75ZdrxBW+Q=; b=KuKfRk+tK/ZXLEm+w+8dnIr9OblosDUcHmvrxu3a90P9 BrVRiTZnitmEuCWikhBQxXwiQro0jlMraqrYWYFkDBHb+YYAZsuOHduHxHOhLWEW j8PKJhr/WVLUDeWetZMBlJMR6LlBoHcTtca5IRGC5RpdVsXKG4lnbqwCTGZZHbEL RInmVkx2AXmPqUs/kzNpuTYpSAGgbmobYdjx8FBtir2yyl/L95obPnu/mKc1vYg2 DYQQUHQjh8ilm6xAFoUNGVC5bMLMuDLoJEey4vgTRPKOEP+xtFhjxlJXtNAX1YKw ylDMq4B3564BVGl+RZpAEJNPKV4orKBz3DG0xZsibA== X-ME-Sender: X-ME-Proxy-Cause: gggruggvucftvghtrhhoucdtuddrgedvledrfedujedgkeelucetufdoteggodetrfdotf fvucfrrhhofhhilhgvmecuhfgrshhtofgrihhlpdfqfgfvpdfurfetoffkrfgpnffqhgen uceurghilhhouhhtmecufedttdenucesvcftvggtihhpihgvnhhtshculddquddttddmne cujfgurhepofgfggfkjghffffhvfevufgtsehttdertderredtnecuhfhrohhmpedftehl rghnucffrdcuufgrlhgvfihskhhifdcuoegrughssehsrghlvgifshhkihdrvghmrghilh eqnecuggftrfgrthhtvghrnhepgeekveegheeiffevudetgfehvdejfefhgfdvgffhhfef keekgfegtdevffekjedunecuffhomhgrihhnpehkhihmqdgtughnrdgtohhmnecuvehluh hsthgvrhfuihiivgeptdenucfrrghrrghmpehmrghilhhfrhhomheprggushesshgrlhgv fihskhhirdgvmhgrihhl X-ME-Proxy: Feedback-ID: if9414728:Fastmail Received: by mailuser.nyi.internal (Postfix, from userid 501) id C76B2272007C; Thu, 13 Jun 2024 11:42:38 -0400 (EDT) X-Mailer: MessagingEngine.com Webmail Interface User-Agent: Cyrus-JMAP/3.11.0-alpha0-515-g87b2bad5a-fm-20240604.001-g87b2bad5 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <20240613153529.GO8271@mcvoy.com> References: <73819d1a-395a-4b74-a20c-0123fbed56bd@technologists.com> <20240613153529.GO8271@mcvoy.com> Date: Thu, 13 Jun 2024 11:41:48 -0400 From: "Alan D. Salewski" To: "Larry McVoy" , "Charles H Sauer (he/him)" Content-Type: text/plain Message-ID-Hash: X4PKTXBDZRDMTZAOEVBMGINXCBLSO6JT X-Message-ID-Hash: X4PKTXBDZRDMTZAOEVBMGINXCBLSO6JT X-MailFrom: ads@salewski.email X-Mailman-Rule-Misses: dmarc-mitigation; no-senders; approved; emergency; loop; banned-address; member-moderation; nonmember-moderation; administrivia; implicit-dest; max-recipients; max-size; news-moderation; no-subject; digests; suspicious-header CC: "TUHS (The Unix Heritage Society)" X-Mailman-Version: 3.3.6b1 Precedence: list Subject: [TUHS] Re: Version 256 of systemd boasts '42% less Unix philosophy' ??? The Register List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list Archived-At: List-Archive: List-Help: List-Owner: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: On Thu, Jun 13, 2024, at 11:35, Larry McVoy wrote: > "The new alternative does no such sleight of hand. Instead, it just gets the > systemd daemon to run the command for you, using a special form of the existing > systemd-run command." > > Sounds like a new path for exploits. We'll see if Mr Systemd has to eat > some crow in the future. Said by a guy who _hates_ systemd. Eating sudo, eating crow...I guess systemd is /still/ hungry: https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/925/966/8d2.gif -Al