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From: krewat@kilonet.net (Arthur Krewat)
Subject: [TUHS] System Economics (was is Linux "officially branded UNIX")
Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2017 15:48:35 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ddfb5858-5817-99b3-67fb-34cdc60314ed@kilonet.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAC20D2OhodnTWZ1GWOJCbBwefq7H=Dn+ZvN=z1fFy4O9CP8BMQ@mail.gmail.com>

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So what I'm hearing is Linux's timeline, which includes things that were 
not developed just for Linux, extends further out than SunOS does.

Again, I'm including everything ... You could make a case for certain 
Unixes that do not include a pre-existing C compiler being bounded by 
their own development (or any other operating system that needs a 
precursor).  For example, say there was an operating system that used a 
C compiler to build itself that was developed 10 years before. That 
example operating system's timeline would have to include said C 
compiler IMHO.

On the other hand, an operating system who's sole method of creation was 
engineered in year 0, and was "developed" for 10 years and ended, we 
could say that OS's timeline was a solid 10 years.

All I'm saying is comparing Linux's timeline to something like SunOS has 
to include everything that went into both because they both relied on 
precursors.

Side note: I'm a bit of a bitch when it comes to Linux - which doesn't 
mean I don't think Linux is "UNIX" - it just means I think it's the 
Coherent of today's UNIX ;)


On 3/14/2017 2:20 PM, Clem Cole wrote:
> That's not really fair.   The compiler and the utilities was developed 
> for UNIX long before the Linux kernel existed.  This is why so many of 
> consider "Linux" just the current version of UNIX.
>
> On Tue, Mar 14, 2017 at 12:20 PM, Arthur Krewat <krewat at kilonet.net 
> <mailto:krewat at kilonet.net>> wrote:
>
>     Everything. I'm trying to grok how long Linux as a whole was in
>     active development. That includes all the GNU utilities, GCC,
>     everything.
>
>     Just like a "regular" corporate development environment would have
>     devoted to the cause :)
>
>
>
>
>     On 3/14/2017 11:57 AM, Michael Kjörling wrote:
>
>         On 14 Mar 2017 11:51 -0400, from krewat at kilonet.net
>         <mailto:krewat at kilonet.net> (Arthur Krewat):
>
>             in reality, how much of Linux was based on previous works?
>
>         Linux the kernel, or Linux the usable operating system (which
>         would
>         include at least the essential userspace parts)?
>
>
>

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Thread overview: 67+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-03-14 14:43 Clem Cole
2017-03-14 15:38 ` Larry McVoy
2017-03-14 15:51   ` Arthur Krewat
2017-03-14 15:56     ` Larry McVoy
2017-03-14 15:57     ` Michael Kjörling
2017-03-14 16:20       ` Arthur Krewat
2017-03-14 18:06         ` Jason Stevens
2017-03-14 18:31           ` Clem Cole
2017-03-14 18:59             ` Jason Stevens
2017-03-14 18:20         ` Clem Cole
2017-03-14 19:48           ` Arthur Krewat [this message]
2017-03-15 14:32             ` Michael Kjörling
2017-03-15 15:36               ` Arthur Krewat
     [not found]                 ` <58c9623b.law1Aw2ufj3DFNA1%schily@schily.net>
2017-03-15 15:54                   ` Arthur Krewat
2017-03-15 15:59                 ` Larry McVoy
2017-03-15 17:43                   ` Warner Losh
2017-03-15 19:02                     ` Larry McVoy
2017-03-15 19:14                       ` Warner Losh
2017-03-14 18:41         ` Warner Losh
2017-03-17 18:16           ` [TUHS] GNU vs BSD before the lawsuit and before Linux Tony Finch
2017-03-17 18:52             ` Jeremy C. Reed
2017-03-19  7:18               ` arnold
2017-03-19  9:05                 ` Wesley Parish
2017-03-19 18:37                 ` Warner Losh
2017-03-17 19:54             ` Ron Natalie
2017-03-14 18:18   ` [TUHS] System Economics (was is Linux "officially branded UNIX") Clem Cole
2017-03-14 16:20 ` tfb
2017-03-14 22:45 ` Josh Good
2017-03-15  1:11   ` Clem Cole
2017-03-15  7:55     ` arnold
2017-03-15 19:28     ` Josh Good
2017-03-15 19:35       ` Clem Cole
2017-03-15 20:26         ` Ron Natalie
2017-03-15 23:22           ` 'Josh Good'
2017-03-15 19:45       ` Clem Cole
2017-03-15 20:27         ` Larry McVoy
2017-03-15 20:48           ` Clem Cole
2017-03-15 23:46           ` Arthur Krewat
2017-03-16  0:45             ` Clem Cole
2017-03-16  1:27               ` Steve Nickolas
2017-03-16  3:09                 ` Ron Natalie
2017-03-16  3:18                   ` Charles Anthony
2017-03-16  3:36               ` Dan Cross
2017-03-16  4:08                 ` arnold
2017-03-16 12:51               ` Arthur Krewat
2017-03-16 13:18                 ` William Pechter
2017-03-17 21:20               ` Josh Good
2017-03-16 15:42           ` Chet Ramey
2017-03-16 17:29             ` William Pechter
2017-03-15 23:55         ` Josh Good
2017-03-16  0:05           ` William Pechter
2017-03-15 20:08       ` Clem Cole
2017-03-16  0:46         ` Wesley Parish
2017-03-16  0:52           ` Clem Cole
2017-03-16 19:47       ` Dave Horsfall
2017-03-17  2:16         ` Jason Stevens
2017-03-17 15:55           ` Warner Losh
2017-03-17 21:11           ` Dave Horsfall
2017-03-14 19:01 Noel Chiappa
2017-03-14 20:05 Clem Cole
2017-03-14 20:16 ` Arthur Krewat
2017-03-14 20:54 ` Dan Cross
2017-03-14 21:19   ` Clem Cole
2017-03-16 15:40 Norman Wilson
2017-03-16 17:26 ` William Pechter
2017-03-16 18:45   ` Clem Cole
2017-03-16 22:17 ` Dave Horsfall

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