From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=MAILING_LIST_MULTI autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: (qmail 7880 invoked from network); 27 Jan 2023 18:24:56 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (50.116.15.146) by inbox.vuxu.org with ESMTPUTF8; 27 Jan 2023 18:24:56 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 93B6D42500; Sat, 28 Jan 2023 04:24:48 +1000 (AEST) Received: from mail.kaybuena.com (rrcs-71-42-153-194.sw.biz.rr.com [71.42.153.194]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6356E425A3 for ; Sat, 28 Jan 2023 04:24:39 +1000 (AEST) Received: from [192.168.147.6] (4dot2 [71.42.153.195]) by mail.kaybuena.com (8.17.1/8.15.2) with ESMTP id 30RIOaHo2049410 for ; Fri, 27 Jan 2023 12:24:36 -0600 Message-ID: Date: Fri, 27 Jan 2023 12:24:36 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; rv:102.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/102.6.1 Content-Language: en-US To: tuhs@tuhs.org References: <3e272d72-b77a-d347-b5c3-7ed19482e5af@gmail.com> <3h5FEAegoTs6FrhHODiW-rBdB59dt_Rmr4G0PIw7flqaJLsmorgPsilm4f2aJkDud-qEljDjnCJcE1uY05Iw4HNQcyNG4W3wzVlLD0UZfLg=@protonmail.com> <08b201d93279$fbb2a200$f317e600$@henare.com> From: "Charles H Sauer (he/him)" In-Reply-To: <08b201d93279$fbb2a200$f317e600$@henare.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Greylist: Sender passed SPF test, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.6.4 (mail.kaybuena.com [71.42.153.194]); Fri, 27 Jan 2023 12:24:36 -0600 (CST) Message-ID-Hash: YLADPSMGDV7T6IHZKJIJ2R5LBQWI3I6Q X-Message-ID-Hash: YLADPSMGDV7T6IHZKJIJ2R5LBQWI3I6Q X-MailFrom: sauer@technologists.com X-Mailman-Rule-Misses: dmarc-mitigation; no-senders; approved; emergency; loop; banned-address; member-moderation; header-match-tuhs.tuhs.org-0; nonmember-moderation; administrivia; implicit-dest; max-recipients; max-size; news-moderation; no-subject; digests; suspicious-header X-Mailman-Version: 3.3.6b1 Precedence: list Subject: [TUHS] Re: Setting up an X Development Environment for Mac OS List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list Archived-At: List-Archive: List-Help: List-Owner: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: The decision to end AOS was made sometime in 1H88 and the group of us that defined the "convergence" was formed. Our work must have been largely complete when I presented our plans at Berkeley 11/88 at a workshop that coincided with the Morris worm. I assume we submitted the Uniforum 89 paper (https://technologists.com/sauer/Convergence_of_AIX_and_4.3BSD.pdf) about then, as well. On 1/27/2023 12:05 PM, Henry Mensch wrote: > This was certainly true before 1986; I joined Project Athena in April of > 1986 and this was quite well established by then. > > And it was no real surprise when IBM killed off AOS. AIX was already > "product" and there was no commercially installed base for RT/PC systems > worth mentioning ... (part of my job at the time was to identify and > document the differences) > > -----Original Message----- > From: Theodore Ts'o > Sent: 26 January 2023 23:50 > To: Dan Cross > Cc: segaloco ; TUHS main list > Subject: [TUHS] Re: Setting up an X Development Environment for Mac OS > > On Wed, Jan 25, 2023 at 03:04:27PM -0500, Dan Cross wrote: >> On Wed, Jan 25, 2023 at 2:54 PM Theodore Ts'o wrote: >>> [snip] >>> otherwise, undergraduates had to go to the right terminal room >>> in the right part of campus to connect to the Vax 750 that you were >>> assgined to based on the starting character of your last name. > > I'm not sure; this would have been in the 1985--1987 time frame. > -snip- > Well, it perhaps would have been more accurate that IBM had decided to that > AIX was the future, and had defunded the AOS group. > > -- voice: +1.512.784.7526 e-mail: sauer@technologists.com fax: +1.512.346.5240 Web: https://technologists.com/sauer/ Facebook/Google/Twitter: CharlesHSauer