From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.3 required=5.0 tests=DATE_IN_PAST_06_12, DKIM_SIGNED,DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,MAILING_LIST_MULTI,NICE_REPLY_A, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: (qmail 28099 invoked from network); 6 Nov 2020 23:43:12 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (45.79.103.53) by inbox.vuxu.org with ESMTPUTF8; 6 Nov 2020 23:43:12 -0000 Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id 064E89D6C8; Sat, 7 Nov 2020 09:42:57 +1000 (AEST) Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B3E79D4C0; Sat, 7 Nov 2020 09:42:44 +1000 (AEST) Authentication-Results: minnie.tuhs.org; dkim=pass (2048-bit key; unprotected) header.d=earthlink.net header.i=@earthlink.net header.b="RHlKykFu"; dkim-atps=neutral Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id 0814C9D4D8; Sat, 7 Nov 2020 09:42:43 +1000 (AEST) Received: from elasmtp-galgo.atl.sa.earthlink.net (elasmtp-galgo.atl.sa.earthlink.net [209.86.89.61]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 624DB9D4B4 for ; Sat, 7 Nov 2020 09:42:42 +1000 (AEST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=earthlink.net; s=dk12062016; t=1604706162; bh=PlTZxirrgfg4hlVw1HQFnh4BG2ipSguo6U+/ Db97hMI=; h=Received:From:Subject:Reply-To:To:References:Message-ID: Date:User-Agent:MIME-Version:In-Reply-To:Content-Type: Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Language:X-ELNK-Trace: X-Originating-IP; b=RHlKykFulxLPkegoJNkmFjpcz0V9F/SOYDHouedFq1LKZK LpIfhG3CXKMeuDlhlIK6lq+vc3WVxRqZDfukpQ8RkmBVyodAVXOH14V3W26xmKI4Wnf 7S2pPH8GpebizoEp11qkiZsOJ5YSwPAjH0QJzZ0S/x6jFpxp+LKeLpDyzGsoNxAATOA KYyLkGNZp6aCQeZrr7Z3XRTK4ddWhC/CkSXxcN/xnZ2LZJRcIyrJM6e2MTmL6YKQwQ3 wnhCGOef8xOB1y7wa3bCXpA/X261P2F3pKR3uLDIAfq5q/lYSYydAFbI8pfxxSXGU91 5uXDChQiJM68EsBzy8Pb+O6YS53g== DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk12062016; d=earthlink.net; b=PHVysv+ZrsSu2FWE8hyh7OIu8advHd6Dyj5CptHqVN56wQsjCAowvqrAW6vkqU4729W5e6+0tTfJzQlNE46fqUIZCL5I0uERAz8BJ0bLPLzcAdux06xHQB4sKClz+9k9OSTp2znpU9rfPVfwyuGyg7Lq9K9Iu2fiSqKhOp+8B5AEOKmLp4XCErD9Q0KBfbl53qZRnUHByyDIzj23GdDweeKTrSh5+jKhhX31ApWpKn2Eyo8GmMARAWIrwRkziGFqG1a1bvMApWMh/5JRFqVML+G36TqXTscRrzTJktmO4WmssNpL4yYdlzmsDgD5TNN8oPkjtHqXOrfSskzEbIIgIw==; h=Received:From:Subject:Reply-To:To:References:Message-ID:Date:User-Agent:MIME-Version:In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Language:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Received: from [24.144.113.94] (helo=joker2.seclark.com) by elasmtp-galgo.atl.sa.earthlink.net with esmtpsa (TLSv1.2:ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256:128) (Exim 4) (envelope-from ) id 1kb4sK-0004t5-PO for tuhs@tuhs.org; Fri, 06 Nov 2020 11:46:08 -0500 From: Stephen Clark To: tuhs@tuhs.org References: <202011061519.0A6FJOAx034308@elf.torek.net> Message-ID: Date: Fri, 6 Nov 2020 11:46:08 -0500 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:68.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/68.12.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <202011061519.0A6FJOAx034308@elf.torek.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Language: en-US X-ELNK-Trace: a437fbc6971e80f61aa676d7e74259b7b3291a7d08dfec79371b7df50d0e97806bd644b91c1d6a40350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 24.144.113.94 Subject: Re: [TUHS] The Elements Of Style: UNIX As Literature X-BeenThere: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 Precedence: list List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Reply-To: sclark46@earthlink.net Errors-To: tuhs-bounces@minnie.tuhs.org Sender: "TUHS" On 11/6/20 10:19 AM, Chris Torek wrote: >>> I think you're jumping to conclusions. The importance of 80 >>> characters (for small values of 80) is that it's a comfortable text >>> width for human eyes. >> Exactly this. > Yes -- this is the (or at least "an") argument for two-column text > on wide (8.5x11 or A4, or larger) paper pages. > >> It's also why I'm fine with smaller screens, I tried the giant apple >> displays and found that those required head movement along with eye >> movement. >> I'm lazy. > I am too, but I still use a big screen: I just fit a lot of > smaller windows in it. I'd like to have a literal wall screen, > especially if I'm in an interior, windowless (as in physical glass > windows) room, so that part of the wall could be a "window" > showing a view "outside" (real time, or the ocean, or whatever) > and other parts of the wall could be the text I'm working on/with, > etc. > > (But I'll make do with these 27" 4k displays. :-) ) > > Chris Could the 72 characters come from the original terminal ASR 33 Teletype? The Model 33 printed on 8.5-inch (220 mm) wide paper, supplied on continuous 5-inch (130 mm) diameter rolls and fed via friction (instead of, e.g., tractor feed). It printed at a fixed 10 characters per inch, and supported 74-character lines,[13] although 72 characters is often commonly stated. --