From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.1 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_SIGNED,DKIM_VALID, DKIM_VALID_AU,FREEMAIL_FROM,HTML_MESSAGE,MAILING_LIST_MULTI, NICE_REPLY_A,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: (qmail 23167 invoked from network); 9 Dec 2020 23:46:45 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (45.79.103.53) by inbox.vuxu.org with ESMTPUTF8; 9 Dec 2020 23:46:45 -0000 Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id B2F4293D58; Thu, 10 Dec 2020 09:46:43 +1000 (AEST) Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3FA5C93D29; Thu, 10 Dec 2020 09:46:19 +1000 (AEST) Authentication-Results: minnie.tuhs.org; dkim=pass (2048-bit key; unprotected) header.d=gmail.com header.i=@gmail.com header.b="Ueh38Xhj"; dkim-atps=neutral Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id 4468D93D29; Thu, 10 Dec 2020 09:46:17 +1000 (AEST) Received: from mail-qv1-f44.google.com (mail-qv1-f44.google.com [209.85.219.44]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B2A0793D28 for ; Thu, 10 Dec 2020 09:46:16 +1000 (AEST) Received: by mail-qv1-f44.google.com with SMTP id n9so1569206qvp.5 for ; Wed, 09 Dec 2020 15:46:16 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=subject:to:references:from:message-id:date:user-agent:mime-version :in-reply-to; bh=VOWJFTsk9lPV9zt+rbnshS/FhezPisG8dex5DhFi4l8=; b=Ueh38XhjtKQ7zQBMK+SK7a0fza1o+Ekpr69ojzmtnJw/xkZdew7qtwrfKHytkpJMgS PNxoHPxtUm1XY2UiAT1xk9KgkaiBcBD3MVGhfscwM7aI3jE1eOgkzTfarCDQlzO3N0Kl opoQHk1IEk7aUa1Wztc26zNqBCQ9HB2vIYXAdK9c7WD2f3T02QghRV4CSUPAfmZ/zrev FxaBq9VBVoH8fTN/4PpIqVWxvHhPfxhDf7Mq6Ekf2asGpCxPsZd65pxpp2ghnopgWLrU Iy+nMERJmLNRwqhVtkC0QjHomaQtFXmtqNu1okh0akfLKwNorGK1s0kEddpqLY0xpmOV KpEg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:subject:to:references:from:message-id:date :user-agent:mime-version:in-reply-to; bh=VOWJFTsk9lPV9zt+rbnshS/FhezPisG8dex5DhFi4l8=; b=aS1fi2xh7lPpd7RVQ8Qa+o7mX1nvPMvC9mr6X9EkUTHZviRM/vE7x46SnhF/BfBoRT LGYAEDI2UgytMdriCkezk70lgFrk8/R/sd1q1vCdejUosXexeZ8sEpZIZ/s8hLeL6o7i 6TujHcxJJF/tK9XPC0gACR93ltBGLowXSuTqxbf/2jlquKoqM/fLb/RtJGRiIUpmgtW6 VgZCQpCT3OKQSpFFXWPV7VtqVyM+ZTEBVv2Iu8xa+/gcT0hQRU7GUEpCLGYQKYVraNJD DN9sO3kyYhJtgZOUKk3DRAV0s9vsek4yySVKBcIqVEPJV1me/zkCf2sfq+QYVtg2NkL3 dRhg== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM533waarWWGMewQVckMwQosskIVUgw0dHNPbIKdtMHpgdNHpiYhlB FGespFWIL53FwYlrFbeCiuFPG2uL/1H64Q== X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJz6I2+uPFDWDtcIOM2RgJpg5iWVYD7kv0VHuJ1XvmmYDPayk0Fz5/NOAEFFTsSFfUGEXzzTsQ== X-Received: by 2002:a0c:bf44:: with SMTP id b4mr5900279qvj.30.1607557575649; Wed, 09 Dec 2020 15:46:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from [10.0.1.24] (198.27.14-65.ip.mltn.standardbroadband.ca. [198.27.14.65]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id h67sm2415110qkd.107.2020.12.09.15.46.14 for (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-ECDSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Wed, 09 Dec 2020 15:46:15 -0800 (PST) To: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org References: From: Nemo Nusquam Message-ID: Date: Wed, 9 Dec 2020 18:46:13 -0500 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; SunOS sun4u; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.5.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------B6746F94FB3B2926B76590C8" Subject: Re: [TUHS] Were cron and at done at the same time? Or one before the other? X-BeenThere: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 Precedence: list List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: tuhs-bounces@minnie.tuhs.org Sender: "TUHS" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------B6746F94FB3B2926B76590C8 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit On 12/09/20 12:42, Dan Stromberg wrote: > On Wed, Dec 9, 2020 at 9:08 AM Bakul Shah > wrote: > > Ah .. but I don’t know if they did! The implication that Pascal > folks like complexity seems strange as Pascal is far simpler than > C++ (not much larger than C) and C++ is no more type safe than C > (both are less type safe than Pascal). Anyway I will stop now! > > > I was one of the people who happily left Pascal behind to move to C. > But in retrospect, I think the computing world would've been better > off with Pascal, modified slightly to allow passing variable-length > arrays (like TurboPascal). As Wirth wrote, in retrospect he should have called it Pascal-2, not Modula-2. [COFF, COFF] N. --------------B6746F94FB3B2926B76590C8 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit On 12/09/20 12:42, Dan Stromberg wrote:
On Wed, Dec 9, 2020 at 9:08 AM Bakul Shah <bakul@iitbombay.org> wrote:
Ah .. but I don’t know if they did! The implication that Pascal folks like complexity seems strange as Pascal is far simpler than C++ (not much larger than C) and C++ is no more type safe than C (both are less type safe than Pascal). Anyway I will stop now!

I was one of the people who happily left Pascal behind to move to C.  But in retrospect, I think the computing world would've been better off with Pascal, modified slightly to allow passing variable-length arrays (like TurboPascal).

As Wirth wrote, in retrospect he should have called it Pascal-2, not Modula-2.  [COFF, COFF]

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