From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=MAILING_LIST_MULTI autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: (qmail 27473 invoked from network); 1 Feb 2023 16:35:36 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (50.116.15.146) by inbox.vuxu.org with ESMTPUTF8; 1 Feb 2023 16:35:36 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C569424A4; Thu, 2 Feb 2023 02:35:01 +1000 (AEST) Received: from mout.perfora.net (mout.perfora.net [74.208.4.194]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8235D42476 for ; Thu, 2 Feb 2023 02:34:55 +1000 (AEST) Received: from makerlispvps ([74.208.29.250]) by mrelay.perfora.net (mreueus002 [74.208.5.2]) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0MhSU8-1p0lPY3xxq-00MeUJ for ; Wed, 01 Feb 2023 17:34:54 +0100 Received: from [192.168.234.128] (unknown [172.58.19.208]) by makerlispvps (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 6593A88A2E for ; Wed, 1 Feb 2023 16:34:54 +0000 (UTC) To: tuhs@tuhs.org References: <20230201004023.rHE9j%steffen@sdaoden.eu> <20230201005335.zF5nW%steffen@sdaoden.eu> From: Luther Johnson Message-ID: Date: Wed, 1 Feb 2023 09:34:45 -0700 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20230201005335.zF5nW%steffen@sdaoden.eu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:KgEPV3blctGno+6nQQTWrOW2WVsGn1+fHViuBMItGMcSbQoc7+N 9BxuKXD6la6vOIBnomEJrSkoSK7mXahv9uMKodGlSF1FK0i/Yoih9rTQk3Z1XWkFnRhIlGH +vBqYmk/C5Ik/LtaXGFvkmpFVbrnrUk1JxI0GfCY4esM6BDzSDQSjch61F85QsFlng092H7 5eSVmECuxcq6emzcLdr1A== UI-OutboundReport: notjunk:1;M01:P0:+bYngyu7qVo=;zUlhhMWcypC8vRWkm9+nk/SyCxq A9N41CYNwsmKcSatCxfZbh6THjCXcfe4BIKH85knV8bqQYiuzfctVT0h9U+YJtp1Lv2hkJ+Jn 8lnPS1oGZ+xMJp0/4Mp/2V2gPGhPfcVSLlirIXNvMMCBzynja1A7PLJR3+nNBEs/ed5aVV+Ts H2CN3WrrNwykj2V798fMK1eWxE79ytdV5aQDl0e+LMW3XkZngUMNvWDQaUX97NSrKKSqry2+J o75NFjfiobK0WuHpVnS03S7AZt6u4MyGpV0Ht8weKSJlYJFX8ohSnIhrz5yaFbMn2HzM0Jkwx reA2oJ0fm/cdYJMhRtLbnnnYaSRNwFUzGA/iIkhy6ua27xm78ZczH+VKiRQKUEZSV2jNLPZA9 tRe3Sc/Fojg31zgfb4/v6dQZTUB2GPL+RvzatsNOj2Aa7OsAyeyyM8RWlEqA8J7EtUfkFb9zf 5XKa5Yk8tnTVfDR3u/Zb8W95RYri+9h2KwC/YtdPYmTJn1an62d4IgBVBnmVtZ7HwXWJ/fjNx C/+qfbKtihihzIOm5h2yIlG/hYLePGmcaAwaKeSG1bjwHy4KtN5eCXxaCEaPaSLu6XxDKXFhS bBRdJx5s1/BrjU+ORElAhHGDXxd/Kkc3Wg5GgnxfLv+bd+1eivjl7C+TbxWAaXoAo5WHLZkEZ Fg7hOcyPQpnJKRh7P98mDB0bYPnCBTHTtltPP1ZQ4g== Message-ID-Hash: QNIUNSCQPOIFTX7FWX6VMRYWWBLCNTFM X-Message-ID-Hash: QNIUNSCQPOIFTX7FWX6VMRYWWBLCNTFM X-MailFrom: luther@makerlisp.com X-Mailman-Rule-Misses: dmarc-mitigation; no-senders; approved; emergency; loop; banned-address; member-moderation; header-match-tuhs.tuhs.org-0; nonmember-moderation; administrivia; implicit-dest; max-recipients; max-size; news-moderation; no-subject; digests; suspicious-header X-Mailman-Version: 3.3.6b1 Precedence: list Subject: [TUHS] Re: yet another C discussion (YACD) and: Rust is not C++ List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list Archived-At: List-Archive: List-Help: List-Owner: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: I think you are right, this is an important component, people joining and identifying themselves with a language movement. And planning to be there to fill the need for "Language X" programmers. On 01/31/2023 05:53 PM, Steffen Nurpmeso wrote: > Steffen Nurpmeso wrote in > <20230201004023.rHE9j%steffen@sdaoden.eu>: > ... > > P.S.: What i will never forget, it came in the major news TV > program of Germany (ARD Tagesschau, public law; iirc), was when > JAVA came up. Small (Campus?) Cafe in America, two young male > programmers and one young female programmer, and she was asked why > JAVA, .. and she said something like "this is our opportunity". > Maybe this is the thing about the name Rust that i go with. > Whether it makes anything "better", i do not know. But it is > maybe an opportunity for a generation to go/nim/julia their way. > > --steffen > | > |Der Kragenbaer, The moon bear, > |der holt sich munter he cheerfully and one by one > |einen nach dem anderen runter wa.ks himself off > |(By Robert Gernhardt) >