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From: krewat@kilonet.net (Arthur Krewat)
Subject: [TUHS] C declarations.
Date: Thu, 11 May 2017 18:01:36 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <e84dcab4-4d45-5cc3-ca1b-34d786e9c87c@kilonet.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <015401d2caa0$79762650$6c6272f0$@ronnatalie.com>


But wouldn't that imply you didn't need to use the * when referencing 
the actual value?

For example, if you do this:

char *p;
char c;

The correct way to get the character it's pointing to dereference like this:

c=*p;

If the type was char* (not char)

Wouldn't that imply I wouldn't need the * to dereference the pointer?




On 5/11/2017 5:49 PM, Ron Natalie wrote:
> Bjarne agrees with you.   He put the * (and the &) with the type name to emphasize it is part of the type.
> This works fine as long as you only use one declaration per statement.
>
> The problem with that is that * doesn't really bind to the type name.   It binds to the variable.
>
> char* cp1, cp2;   // cp1 is pointer to char,   cp2 is just a char.
>
> I always found it confusing that the * is used to indicate an pointer here, where as when you want to change an lvalue to a pointer, you use &.
>
> But if we're going to gripe about the evolution of C.   My biggest gripe is when they fixed structs to be real types, they didn't also do so for arrays.
> Arrays and their  degeneration to poitners is one of the biggest annoyances in C.
>
>> Am I the only one here who thinks that e.g. a char pointer should be
>> "char* cp1, cp2" instead of "char *cp1, *cp2"?  I.e. the fundamental type is "char*", not "char", and to this day I still write:
>
>
>



  reply	other threads:[~2017-05-11 22:01 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 48+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-05-11 21:49 Ron Natalie
2017-05-11 22:01 ` Arthur Krewat [this message]
2017-05-11 23:44   ` Dave Horsfall
2017-05-11 22:03 ` David Arnold
2017-05-11 22:32   ` Larry McVoy
2017-05-11 22:41     ` Ron Natalie
2017-05-13  1:24       ` Larry McVoy
2017-05-13  2:45         ` Ron Natalie
2017-05-13 12:20           ` Michael Kjörling
2017-05-13 12:35             ` Tim Bradshaw
2017-05-13 12:42               ` Michael Kjörling
2017-05-13 15:36                 ` Stephen Kitt
2017-05-14  1:59                 ` Lawrence Stewart
2017-05-14  2:23                   ` Dave Horsfall
2017-05-14  4:24                   ` Bakul Shah
2017-05-14  6:12                     ` Steve Johnson
2017-05-14  6:48                       ` Bakul Shah
2017-05-14 23:06                         ` Ron Natalie
2017-05-14 23:34                           ` Arthur Krewat
2017-05-15  0:14                             ` Dan Cross
2017-05-15  0:23                               ` Ron Natalie
2017-05-15  3:43                                 ` Random832
2017-05-15  0:40                               ` Larry McVoy
2017-05-15  2:00                                 ` Nevin Liber
2017-05-15 10:21                                 ` Tony Finch
2017-05-15  4:35                     ` Dave Horsfall
2017-05-15  4:54                       ` Bakul Shah
2017-05-15  5:01                         ` Dave Horsfall
2017-05-15 12:58                       ` Michael Kjörling
2017-05-15 16:58                         ` Dave Horsfall
2017-05-15 19:00                           ` [TUHS] cdecl (Re: " Bakul Shah
2017-05-15 22:52                             ` Dave Horsfall
2017-05-13 13:46               ` [TUHS] " Hellwig Geisse
2017-05-13 19:08               ` Random832
2017-05-13 23:21                 ` Dave Horsfall
2017-05-14 14:48                   ` Nemo
2017-05-13 19:05             ` Random832
2017-05-14 13:14               ` Derek Fawcus
2017-05-12  0:15     ` Bakul Shah
2017-05-12  2:41       ` Theo Pavlidis
2017-05-12 14:04 Richard Tobin
2017-05-13 23:11 Richard Tobin
2017-05-15  6:46 ` Tim Bradshaw
2017-05-14 14:11 Doug McIlroy
2017-05-14 14:58 ` Steve Nickolas
2017-05-15 18:47 Steve Johnson
2017-05-15 19:54 ` Bakul Shah
2017-05-16  7:25 ` George Ross

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