From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.8 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_INVALID,DKIM_SIGNED, HTML_MESSAGE,MAILING_LIST_MULTI,T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: (qmail 25875 invoked from network); 18 Dec 2023 16:39:00 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (2600:3c01:e000:146::1) by inbox.vuxu.org with ESMTPUTF8; 18 Dec 2023 16:39:00 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A827B43EB9; Mon, 18 Dec 2023 09:00:04 +1000 (AEST) Received: from wout4-smtp.messagingengine.com (wout4-smtp.messagingengine.com [64.147.123.20]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C960043EB8 for ; Mon, 18 Dec 2023 08:59:58 +1000 (AEST) Received: from compute2.internal (compute2.nyi.internal [10.202.2.46]) by mailout.west.internal (Postfix) with ESMTP id 59CDE3200A1F for ; Sun, 17 Dec 2023 17:59:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from mailfrontend2 ([10.202.2.163]) by compute2.internal (MEProxy); Sun, 17 Dec 2023 17:59:57 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=ronnatalie.com; h=cc:content-type:content-type:date:date:from:from:in-reply-to :in-reply-to:message-id:mime-version:references:reply-to :reply-to:subject:subject:to:to; s=fm1; t=1702853996; x= 1702940396; bh=B52pC/HfCAJcXnh6pxH3yRFE2ejWSFurBSmnzqBbWDc=; b=a olYaH06KdBtOq+9CRQjjAGukIVdB5tJ1caxFsH9U2c6V9LMRyKYh3WGhjC92JqLl cF8gG3uH66q7KeW14I2QXWWUXnX4OTJQVIwdOCHchKKBGzLvtEfa0EiiRSW24+Ls 7HTl1jow2SGXSKB8/0tsGjtIV0u0M/Qoa4LoxZ1ak3rhgf8I2sKxdErnr3AsAYUT Es0x4xaUxBSxfe7VhGtBgjV5quZf0lDWXRPsSnKI2HbkbNRDusrKfq+yUZgfV17+ D2x1wg/6DJVyID1RS7csHeTR9HRkKDxHNEikat+AS1JyvMPs6ZPQ/07Qd0Px+lfq rB0hokWxBY3AOiz6JoKAw== DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d= messagingengine.com; h=cc:content-type:content-type:date:date :feedback-id:feedback-id:from:from:in-reply-to:in-reply-to :message-id:mime-version:references:reply-to:reply-to:subject :subject:to:to:x-me-proxy:x-me-proxy:x-me-sender:x-me-sender :x-sasl-enc; s=fm2; t=1702853996; x=1702940396; bh=B52pC/HfCAJcX nh6pxH3yRFE2ejWSFurBSmnzqBbWDc=; b=M1IY6nRHNIOTJ3vH3vtPNt1zo83GZ vAf2tWzLVfA4ghD7lsJ8VtODO2s9o4QwwjeogF7nAT2fM4QFGPudcPzw+UEOFrsZ QnTvEShQX+7KdSeu+cibYXYOCMJD54tNeJIDFhtNQc41WnOSlD6haniUvsAqQ2at HhfLAGIchcRmzcWpV0KFM9RDOe6Ny88+QCUR3W4MkmOjAJPBRAxPBAcHJc3KEp79 6ZOKqlZWjowaOA19Smuv+L9FyJqdCOTiX0WKUwZ/wEdhHZltJMCiBwonNT9yUiDD SRKYTS2i9BoXe0YMOI7qoAS9YlH34ddWJ7at+14laeX4KSFSsCC0EzXVQ== X-ME-Sender: X-ME-Received: X-ME-Proxy-Cause: gggruggvucftvghtrhhoucdtuddrgedvkedrvddtjedgtdegucetufdoteggodetrfdotf fvucfrrhhofhhilhgvmecuhfgrshhtofgrihhlpdfqfgfvpdfurfetoffkrfgpnffqhgen uceurghilhhouhhtmecufedttdenucenucfjughrpefhvffufffkjghfrhgfgggtsegrtd erredtreejnecuhfhrohhmpedftfhonhcupfgrthgrlhhivgdfuceorhhonhesrhhonhhn rghtrghlihgvrdgtohhmqeenucggtffrrghtthgvrhhnpeeludetlefhkeehleejhffhje fgkeetffejledvhefhvdffgeejfeeihfeikeekffenucevlhhushhtvghrufhiiigvpedt necurfgrrhgrmhepmhgrihhlfhhrohhmpehrohhnsehrohhnnhgrthgrlhhivgdrtghomh X-ME-Proxy: Feedback-ID: iaba146ad:Fastmail Received: by mail.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA for ; Sun, 17 Dec 2023 17:59:56 -0500 (EST) From: "Ron Natalie" To: tuhs@tuhs.org Date: Sun, 17 Dec 2023 22:59:55 +0000 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <76f6ae7e-20e1-41fa-9fe4-cc22015411bf@mhorton.net> References: <93ef58b9-b058-4463-b0e6-d2f2f2bf5a55@loomcom.com> <76f6ae7e-20e1-41fa-9fe4-cc22015411bf@mhorton.net> User-Agent: eM_Client/9.2.2144.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------=_MBBFF29312-2B25-46CC-846E-071B7699789A" Message-ID-Hash: 3UWLANWYCFWRSSLQ4K42YBNFR2AC6V2C X-Message-ID-Hash: 3UWLANWYCFWRSSLQ4K42YBNFR2AC6V2C X-MailFrom: ron@ronnatalie.com X-Mailman-Rule-Misses: dmarc-mitigation; no-senders; approved; emergency; loop; banned-address; member-moderation; nonmember-moderation; administrivia; implicit-dest; max-recipients; max-size; news-moderation; no-subject; digests; suspicious-header X-Mailman-Version: 3.3.6b1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Ron Natalie Subject: [TUHS] Re: Compatibility question List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list Archived-At: List-Archive: List-Help: List-Owner: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: --------=_MBBFF29312-2B25-46CC-846E-071B7699789A Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable That=E2=80=99s not entirely true. The VT100 could switch modes from 80x24 = to=20 132x14 (the latter was pretty ugly) or with the AVO 132x24. ------ Original Message ------ >From "Mary Ann Horton" To tuhs@tuhs.org Date 12/17/23, 5:51:00=E2=80=AFPM Subject [TUHS] Re: Compatibility question >The concept of a resizable window didn't appear until GUI interfaces.=20 >Originally the hardware terminal had one specific size and vi depended=20 >on the screen being that exact size. I suspect that SVr2 was in that=20 >category, as the Sun merger of SVr4 would have been the reason to=20 >incorporate it. So try a 24x80 window and see if it behaves. > > > --------=_MBBFF29312-2B25-46CC-846E-071B7699789A Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable =0A =0A =0A
That=E2=80=99s not entirely true. =C2=A0 The VT100 cou= ld switch modes from 80x24 to 132x14 (the latter was pretty ugly) or with t= he AVO 132x24.
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