From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.8 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_INVALID,DKIM_SIGNED, MAILING_LIST_MULTI,T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: (qmail 1166 invoked from network); 29 Mar 2022 21:47:18 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (45.79.103.53) by inbox.vuxu.org with ESMTPUTF8; 29 Mar 2022 21:47:18 -0000 Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id 812929D083; Wed, 30 Mar 2022 07:47:16 +1000 (AEST) Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C9AF9D02D; Wed, 30 Mar 2022 07:46:50 +1000 (AEST) Authentication-Results: minnie.tuhs.org; dkim=fail reason="signature verification failed" (2048-bit key; unprotected) header.d=ronnatalie.com header.i=@ronnatalie.com header.b="pEs3Hqr1"; dkim=fail reason="signature verification failed" (2048-bit key; unprotected) header.d=messagingengine.com header.i=@messagingengine.com header.b="kWA+JVt5"; dkim-atps=neutral Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id 535EC9D02D; Wed, 30 Mar 2022 07:46:46 +1000 (AEST) Received: from wout2-smtp.messagingengine.com (wout2-smtp.messagingengine.com [64.147.123.25]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B5C9B9D02A for ; Wed, 30 Mar 2022 07:46:45 +1000 (AEST) Received: from compute4.internal (compute4.nyi.internal [10.202.2.44]) by mailout.west.internal (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC8223201E4F for ; Tue, 29 Mar 2022 17:46:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mailfrontend2 ([10.202.2.163]) by compute4.internal (MEProxy); Tue, 29 Mar 2022 17:46:44 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=ronnatalie.com; h=cc:content-transfer-encoding:content-type:date:date:from:from :in-reply-to:in-reply-to:message-id:mime-version:references :reply-to:reply-to:sender:subject:subject:to:to; s=fm3; bh=+6KWj oy9ur23ZoBtAF0AaCuXGEft8JWC6JIp/RXoL7o=; b=pEs3Hqr1vND0H2+Co7UgN OZ5J0cR9xkbOyVGuiC9Ya6J838lwFCmykdYy03t2VwZ2H6WU3xB3owCkzCXqV0QN LkHnnBm98PyRskHltrK9x9HplUBMKxDEgKqbvVFoL8yue2Y8Qa5jn/xqC6Dii5xH lThV4V/aofBAI2vN0d8TfkpgegnYkDYP8d1SjnmNPLOgYJq2dmxrfjIaIg7w/p9c 95CHD5V8cjwibLsLnY50y2myrf2V/tlqbLZVi+e2oR3DWG/FzWrIK5uB96qiRYgv E4npEe6vUuZIJE6mcqODHIrrdu2yqwKjG+PtRhDvqt5ydJKoQ1jD7YTmVSKpHG7V A== DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d= messagingengine.com; h=cc:content-transfer-encoding:content-type :date:date:from:from:in-reply-to:in-reply-to:message-id :mime-version:references:reply-to:reply-to:sender:subject :subject:to:to:x-me-proxy:x-me-proxy:x-me-sender:x-me-sender :x-sasl-enc; s=fm3; bh=+6KWjoy9ur23ZoBtAF0AaCuXGEft8JWC6JIp/RXoL 7o=; b=kWA+JVt5T1pyIhdIhKdrmrUDcn55chJ5rWYXxQLrCizGZFnbexn3ZBgjw bhskZAgd8bjfZEP8giZ6JFl00T66FivNKnBkwW/Qf1hGw8sKdgaXThkenvSaa0+4 LKzYmpmokBkdQSrqQcyyjGUGTI8YgFCjFBRsAejHLu9jMvE7YbxVUgx6Nu44nPq8 lyUhrp8O38hgGNKX4wyVna4O0X0RbzR6uGD8eo2ceVLgQUZGQEMGr5sJJXBWqRpX 2G/iXb+R/06D91L4fdBJ6ZCog3KaTIpYJ3UZm+uQDprC58motc7yulJ99rmBe+qi wBh8qn9WPXyt2FOzVsHOpSE6nsbFQ== X-ME-Sender: X-ME-Received: X-ME-Proxy-Cause: gggruggvucftvghtrhhoucdtuddrgedvvddrudeiudcutefuodetggdotefrodftvfcurf hrohhfihhlvgemucfhrghsthforghilhdpqfgfvfdpuffrtefokffrpgfnqfghnecuuegr ihhlohhuthemuceftddtnecunecujfgurhephffvufffkfgjfhhrfgggtgfgsehtqhertd dtreejnecuhfhrohhmpedftfhonhcupfgrthgrlhhivgdfuceorhhonhesrhhonhhnrght rghlihgvrdgtohhmqeenucggtffrrghtthgvrhhnpeffudetveetffeutefhleelvddtfe fhkefhvdfghedujeevieejkedvvddtjeevgeenucevlhhushhtvghrufhiiigvpedtnecu rfgrrhgrmhepmhgrihhlfhhrohhmpehrohhnsehrohhnnhgrthgrlhhivgdrtghomh X-ME-Proxy: Received: by mail.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA for ; Tue, 29 Mar 2022 17:46:44 -0400 (EDT) From: "Ron Natalie" To: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2022 21:46:42 +0000 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <2305F69C-26A5-45C4-9F55-DC7A0ECE85BA@quintile.net> References: <2305F69C-26A5-45C4-9F55-DC7A0ECE85BA@quintile.net> User-Agent: eM_Client/8.2.1659.0 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: [TUHS] Old screen editors X-BeenThere: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 Precedence: list List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Reply-To: Ron Natalie Errors-To: tuhs-bounces@minnie.tuhs.org Sender: "TUHS" Was it one of the awful Pukin-Elmer terminals. I hated those things. Then there was the Rand/Interactive Systems INed. We were stuck using=20 that when I worked for Martin. I never learned vi. If there is no EMACS-like thing on the machine,=20 then I just use ed (sometimes I can get by with ex/vi in line mode). The funniest editor story I have is one day I'm working at Martin. =20 Having actually heard of UNIX before (let alone having done kernel and=20 other work) I was sort of the in house expert. One day one of my=20 coworkers calls out to me: "What's all this Bell System crud in the editor?" I'm thinking, well, it's all Bell System crud. What specifically are=20 we talking about. I walk around to see his terminal and find he has=20 been typing 1 repeatedly to the shell prompt invoking our /usr/bin/1=20 that said "One Bell System, It Works." After that I modded the program to say "You're not in the editor,=20 Bernie." It was almost as much fun as putting "You might have mail." in motd. ------ Original Message ------ From: "Steve Simon" To: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org Sent: 3/29/2022 3:09:52 PM Subject: Re: [TUHS] Old screen editors > >I never really used it but i do remember an editor called le on the v7 int= erdata/Perkin Elmer i used at Leeds poly. > >I read electronics and we all used vi, the computer science people at a d= ifferent campus used le on their Interdata; no idea why. > >anyone any background on le? ihave not seen sight nor sound of it since. > >-Steve >