From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.8 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_INVALID,DKIM_SIGNED, HTML_MESSAGE,MAILING_LIST_MULTI autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: (qmail 29456 invoked from network); 1 Mar 2023 02:07:18 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (2600:3c01:e000:146::1) by inbox.vuxu.org with ESMTPUTF8; 1 Mar 2023 02:07:18 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B60F9432EF; Wed, 1 Mar 2023 12:07:12 +1000 (AEST) Received: from out2-smtp.messagingengine.com (out2-smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.26]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id DBC43432EC for ; Wed, 1 Mar 2023 12:07:08 +1000 (AEST) Received: from compute6.internal (compute6.nyi.internal [10.202.2.47]) by mailout.nyi.internal (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E64C5C00D8; Tue, 28 Feb 2023 21:07:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from mailfrontend1 ([10.202.2.162]) by compute6.internal (MEProxy); Tue, 28 Feb 2023 21:07:08 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=ronnatalie.com; h=cc:cc:content-type:date:date:from:from:in-reply-to :in-reply-to:message-id:mime-version:references:reply-to :reply-to:sender:subject:subject:to:to; s=fm3; t=1677636428; x= 1677722828; bh=JKfn90X6TC7rbm2dnhszi8QlGFhFDuyksRzOBI4bxq4=; b=Y AxiD7WhYqikoA917hD/enLsBBRS1EDQ55txxqBTVYDkpoMBXXRA+KuRUSmWV4mfB VKHW/juXBxBIzWuI9Ui6u03IiS3U9nX9GD4iwARO09d040WIp0R23uq4vvsKUnRg BJ5xyNEE1YviDUmgHhzpCwIftNt8oQMDK+EOIfHypCk9AQQGiFkT70222hNd4P9H BzFvEIF6RiGJ97py6JA2sDzhkpkhtr9D9hki7xrKVOYfjSq7D/csgRAIvkp4QTJU T6lUl0H2S2BivpzJvgR/jUeX23+o+PQzVinmJI3mVfFADHNzIhHBEJ056bs2MNUc Y1HH8pvUA0gtvQiWS+LNQ== DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d= messagingengine.com; h=cc:cc:content-type:date:date:feedback-id :feedback-id:from:from:in-reply-to:in-reply-to:message-id :mime-version:references:reply-to:reply-to:sender:subject :subject:to:to:x-me-proxy:x-me-proxy:x-me-sender:x-me-sender :x-sasl-enc; s=fm1; t=1677636428; x=1677722828; bh=JKfn90X6TC7rb m2dnhszi8QlGFhFDuyksRzOBI4bxq4=; b=I1yStabOGbTptirmHkQJpLCikPUyK dsanwwm7UjJPI0YzuBh1h5/aSqy7s/3rOXQdk9Zf3Vkx3N5Y9dO6RhyMCvLvSVaY nizjmcR0NV6fv8iQqWFEtpgPKM0ztSVAnbHpcU2mzfHerEbZ6NOuNo9VVxHaARYg c7QD8Iq3hvK0IqgWN5b5zJ5rZ3yjAErG36OgDulsBoZ0dSJHcnUGph0dzoRQ8Htk j3nE3qk9qgaUNQ1Sv7NhKRB4PnG4Utpg81bvO59tXjxSCwFabDGId2tDpCBlE6hr dIr2SPLKrcgWP/Hnvx5NCCJlkZsLgvXg8hhIRKcuaxnQHEm2Jsm3DTSTA== X-ME-Sender: X-ME-Received: X-ME-Proxy-Cause: gggruggvucftvghtrhhoucdtuddrgedvhedrudelgedgfeekucetufdoteggodetrfdotf fvucfrrhhofhhilhgvmecuhfgrshhtofgrihhlpdfqfgfvpdfurfetoffkrfgpnffqhgen uceurghilhhouhhtmecufedttdenucesvcftvggtihhpihgvnhhtshculddquddttddmne cujfgurhephffvufevfffkjghfrhgfgggtsegrtderredtreejnecuhfhrohhmpedftfho nhgrlhguucfprghtrghlihgvfdcuoehrohhnsehrohhnnhgrthgrlhhivgdrtghomheqne cuggftrfgrthhtvghrnhepudekhfffieeikefghefhfeejfefhleduvddtffevleelkeeg leegtedvgfdtfeeinecuvehluhhsthgvrhfuihiivgeptdenucfrrghrrghmpehmrghilh hfrhhomheprhhonhesrhhonhhnrghtrghlihgvrdgtohhm X-ME-Proxy: Feedback-ID: iaba146ad:Fastmail Received: by mail.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA; Tue, 28 Feb 2023 21:07:07 -0500 (EST) From: "Ronald Natalie" To: "Rich Salz" , "Dave Horsfall" Date: Wed, 01 Mar 2023 02:07:06 +0000 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: User-Agent: eM_Client/9.0.1755.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------=_MBE9A70E32-6B04-4B54-B6AF-98672F9A6C02" Message-ID-Hash: DRMSM2EBNDGV7RNUTCHXNZ52T2OMZVXC X-Message-ID-Hash: DRMSM2EBNDGV7RNUTCHXNZ52T2OMZVXC X-MailFrom: ron@ronnatalie.com X-Mailman-Rule-Misses: dmarc-mitigation; no-senders; approved; emergency; loop; banned-address; member-moderation; nonmember-moderation; administrivia; implicit-dest; max-recipients; max-size; news-moderation; no-subject; digests; suspicious-header CC: The Eunuchs Hysterical Society X-Mailman-Version: 3.3.6b1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Ronald Natalie Subject: [TUHS] Re: Any Bell 8-bit UNIX Efforts? List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list Archived-At: List-Archive: List-Help: List-Owner: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: --------=_MBE9A70E32-6B04-4B54-B6AF-98672F9A6C02 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable The first chapter of K&R was out as a technical paper at least a year=20 prior to the book coming out. By the time the book had come out, there had already been some evolution=20 in the language. The =E2=80=9CPhototypesetter=E2=80=9D and soon after= =E2=80=9CVersion 7=E2=80=9D=20 versions of the compiler were heading toward what would be come ANSI by=20 the time BDS came out. Amusingly, I ended up working for an unrelated company called BDS and=20 ended up with the BDS.COM domain. Eventually, we changed the name of=20 the company and after brief inquiry from them donated the BDS.COM domain=20 to the compiler guys. At least it didn=E2=80=99t come with a prayer book like the Metalware compi= ler=20 (which really needed all the divine intervention that it could get). ------ Original Message ------ >From "Rich Salz" To "Dave Horsfall" Cc "The Eunuchs Hysterical Society" Date 2/28/2023 8:21:42 PM Subject [TUHS] Re: Any Bell 8-bit UNIX Efforts? >> >>I'm glad that you qualified it with "for the time"; I've used it, and >>calling it a "C compiler" was a bit of a stretch[*]. Later on I=20 >>bought >>the Hi-Tech C compiler, and it was full ANSI, with function prototypes >>etc. > >Hmm. K&R publication date was February 1978. BDS C was released in=20 >August 1979. So it was certainly C as known at that time. X3J11 was=20 >convened in 1983 and published in 1985. Doesn't seem like a good=20 >comparison. >> --------=_MBE9A70E32-6B04-4B54-B6AF-98672F9A6C02 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
= The first chapter of K&R was out as a technical paper at least a year p= rior to the book coming out.
By the time the book had come out, t= here had already been some evolution in the language. =C2=A0 =C2=A0The =E2= =80=9CPhototypesetter=E2=80=9D and soon after =E2=80=9CVersion 7=E2=80=9D v= ersions of the compiler were heading toward what would be come ANSI by the= time BDS came out.

Amusingly, I ended up working = for an unrelated company called BDS and ended up with the BDS.COM domain. = =C2=A0 Eventually, we changed the name of the company and after brief inqu= iry from them donated the BDS.COM domain to the compiler guys.
At least it didn=E2=80=99t come with a prayer book like the= Metalware compiler (which really needed all the divine intervention that it = could get).

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