* [TUHS] Question about Unix adminstration
@ 2021-10-25 18:53 joseph turco
2021-10-25 19:01 ` Ron Natalie
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From: joseph turco @ 2021-10-25 18:53 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: TUHS main list
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Hello all,
I was wondering if there exists a book on Unix administration, specifically
for v7. I have the Unix programmers book already.
Regards
Joseph Turco
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* Re: [TUHS] Question about Unix adminstration
2021-10-25 18:53 [TUHS] Question about Unix adminstration joseph turco
@ 2021-10-25 19:01 ` Ron Natalie
2021-10-25 19:20 ` Scot Jenkins
2021-10-28 22:01 ` Paul Riley
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From: Ron Natalie @ 2021-10-25 19:01 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: joseph turco, TUHS main list
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Unix System Administration by Evi Nemeth et al was written for earlier
UNIX systems but has been revised over the years for later versions.
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From: "joseph turco" <italian.pepe.32@gmail.com>
To: "TUHS main list" <tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org>
Sent: 10/25/2021 2:53:20 PM
Subject: [TUHS] Question about Unix adminstration
>Hello all,
>
>I was wondering if there exists a book on Unix administration,
>specifically for v7. I have the Unix programmers book already.
>
>Regards
>
>Joseph Turco
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* Re: [TUHS] Question about Unix adminstration
2021-10-25 18:53 [TUHS] Question about Unix adminstration joseph turco
2021-10-25 19:01 ` Ron Natalie
@ 2021-10-25 19:20 ` Scot Jenkins
2021-10-28 22:01 ` Paul Riley
2021-10-28 22:01 ` Paul Riley
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From: Scot Jenkins @ 2021-10-25 19:20 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: tuhs, italian.pepe.32
joseph turco <italian.pepe.32@gmail.com> wrote:
> I was wondering if there exists a book on Unix administration, specifically
> for v7. I have the Unix programmers book already.
Introducing the UNIX System, (c) 1983, ISBN 0-07-045001-3
by Henry McGilton and Rachel Morgan
The book covers V7 and is a general intro to UNIX.
It has one chapter on administration near the end
of the book. It covers very basic stuff:
* setting the date
* startup/shutdown
* users and groups, su command
* file systems (mkfs, mount, umount, fsck, icheck, ncheck)
* adding devices (mknod)
* dump, restor, tar
Overall though this is still a great book on UNIX in general,
even today. Great tutorials on ed, sed, ex, vi, nroff/troff,
and ms macros make it worthwhile to own.
scot
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* Re: [TUHS] Question about Unix adminstration
2021-10-25 19:20 ` Scot Jenkins
@ 2021-10-28 22:01 ` Paul Riley
2021-10-29 13:41 ` Clem Cole
0 siblings, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread
From: Paul Riley @ 2021-10-28 22:01 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Scot Jenkins; +Cc: tuhs
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And, as a matter of interest, is there a book for V6?
Paul
*Paul Riley*
On Tue, 26 Oct 2021 at 06:28, Scot Jenkins <sj@sdf.org> wrote:
> joseph turco <italian.pepe.32@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > I was wondering if there exists a book on Unix administration,
> specifically
> > for v7. I have the Unix programmers book already.
>
> Introducing the UNIX System, (c) 1983, ISBN 0-07-045001-3
> by Henry McGilton and Rachel Morgan
>
> The book covers V7 and is a general intro to UNIX.
> It has one chapter on administration near the end
> of the book. It covers very basic stuff:
>
> * setting the date
> * startup/shutdown
> * users and groups, su command
> * file systems (mkfs, mount, umount, fsck, icheck, ncheck)
> * adding devices (mknod)
> * dump, restor, tar
>
> Overall though this is still a great book on UNIX in general,
> even today. Great tutorials on ed, sed, ex, vi, nroff/troff,
> and ms macros make it worthwhile to own.
>
> scot
>
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* Re: [TUHS] Question about Unix adminstration
2021-10-25 18:53 [TUHS] Question about Unix adminstration joseph turco
2021-10-25 19:01 ` Ron Natalie
2021-10-25 19:20 ` Scot Jenkins
@ 2021-10-28 22:01 ` Paul Riley
2 siblings, 0 replies; 9+ messages in thread
From: Paul Riley @ 2021-10-28 22:01 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: joseph turco; +Cc: TUHS main list
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And, as a matter of interest, is there a book for V6?
Paul
*Paul Riley*
On Tue, 26 Oct 2021 at 05:54, joseph turco <italian.pepe.32@gmail.com>
wrote:
> Hello all,
>
> I was wondering if there exists a book on Unix administration,
> specifically for v7. I have the Unix programmers book already.
>
> Regards
>
> Joseph Turco
>
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* Re: [TUHS] Question about Unix adminstration
2021-10-28 22:01 ` Paul Riley
@ 2021-10-29 13:41 ` Clem Cole
2021-10-29 14:04 ` Will Senn
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From: Clem Cole @ 2021-10-29 13:41 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Paul Riley; +Cc: tuhs
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much of what Evi says from an administrator standpoint will apply. That
said if you are running V6 get a copy of the Lion's text.
For real synthesis, maje sure your copy is an nth generation xerographic
copy😅. Seriously go to Amazon and get the modern reprint.
On Fri, Oct 29, 2021 at 12:02 AM Paul Riley <paul@rileyriot.com> wrote:
> And, as a matter of interest, is there a book for V6?
>
> Paul
>
> *Paul Riley*
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, 26 Oct 2021 at 06:28, Scot Jenkins <sj@sdf.org> wrote:
>
>> joseph turco <italian.pepe.32@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> > I was wondering if there exists a book on Unix administration,
>> specifically
>> > for v7. I have the Unix programmers book already.
>>
>> Introducing the UNIX System, (c) 1983, ISBN 0-07-045001-3
>> by Henry McGilton and Rachel Morgan
>>
>> The book covers V7 and is a general intro to UNIX.
>> It has one chapter on administration near the end
>> of the book. It covers very basic stuff:
>>
>> * setting the date
>> * startup/shutdown
>> * users and groups, su command
>> * file systems (mkfs, mount, umount, fsck, icheck, ncheck)
>> * adding devices (mknod)
>> * dump, restor, tar
>>
>> Overall though this is still a great book on UNIX in general,
>> even today. Great tutorials on ed, sed, ex, vi, nroff/troff,
>> and ms macros make it worthwhile to own.
>>
>> scot
>>
> --
Sent from a handheld expect more typos than usual
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* Re: [TUHS] Question about Unix adminstration
2021-10-29 13:41 ` Clem Cole
@ 2021-10-29 14:04 ` Will Senn
2021-10-29 14:32 ` A. P. Garcia
0 siblings, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread
From: Will Senn @ 2021-10-29 14:04 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Clem Cole; +Cc: tuhs
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Evi seems like overkill. By admin, are we really talking about admin, or just standard usage. Ritchie’s install guide and a book like Bourne’s Unix System (my personal favorite) book, or even one of the Kochan books might serve. I know Bourne and Kochan’s books are for later systems, but the bulk of them still apply. The Lion book is a great recommendation.
Will
Sent from my iPhone
> On Oct 29, 2021, at 8:41 AM, Clem Cole <clemc@ccc.com> wrote:
>
> much of what Evi says from an administrator standpoint will apply. That said if you are running V6 get a copy of the Lion's text.
>
>
> For real synthesis, maje sure your copy is an nth generation xerographic copy😅. Seriously go to Amazon and get the modern reprint.
>
>> On Fri, Oct 29, 2021 at 12:02 AM Paul Riley <paul@rileyriot.com> wrote:
>> And, as a matter of interest, is there a book for V6?
>>
>> Paul
>>
>> Paul Riley
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> On Tue, 26 Oct 2021 at 06:28, Scot Jenkins <sj@sdf.org> wrote:
>>> joseph turco <italian.pepe.32@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> > I was wondering if there exists a book on Unix administration, specifically
>>> > for v7. I have the Unix programmers book already.
>>>
>>> Introducing the UNIX System, (c) 1983, ISBN 0-07-045001-3
>>> by Henry McGilton and Rachel Morgan
>>>
>>> The book covers V7 and is a general intro to UNIX.
>>> It has one chapter on administration near the end
>>> of the book. It covers very basic stuff:
>>>
>>> * setting the date
>>> * startup/shutdown
>>> * users and groups, su command
>>> * file systems (mkfs, mount, umount, fsck, icheck, ncheck)
>>> * adding devices (mknod)
>>> * dump, restor, tar
>>>
>>> Overall though this is still a great book on UNIX in general,
>>> even today. Great tutorials on ed, sed, ex, vi, nroff/troff,
>>> and ms macros make it worthwhile to own.
>>>
>>> scot
> --
> Sent from a handheld expect more typos than usual
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* Re: [TUHS] Question about Unix adminstration
2021-10-29 14:04 ` Will Senn
@ 2021-10-29 14:32 ` A. P. Garcia
2021-10-29 22:56 ` joseph turco
0 siblings, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread
From: A. P. Garcia @ 2021-10-29 14:32 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: The Unix Heritage Society
On Fri, Oct 29, 2021 at 10:05 AM Will Senn <will.senn@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Evi seems like overkill. By admin, are we really talking about admin, or just standard usage. Ritchie’s install guide and a book like Bourne’s Unix System (my personal favorite) book, or even one of the Kochan books might serve. I know Bourne and Kochan’s books are for later systems, but the bulk of them still apply. The Lion book is a great recommendation.
>
> Will
Kernighan and Pike's The Unix Programming Environment is another classic...
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* Re: [TUHS] Question about Unix adminstration
2021-10-29 14:32 ` A. P. Garcia
@ 2021-10-29 22:56 ` joseph turco
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From: joseph turco @ 2021-10-29 22:56 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: A. P. Garcia; +Cc: The Unix Heritage Society
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I was reading that book but does it go over administration?
On Fri, Oct 29, 2021, 10:33 AM A. P. Garcia <a.phillip.garcia@gmail.com>
wrote:
> On Fri, Oct 29, 2021 at 10:05 AM Will Senn <will.senn@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Evi seems like overkill. By admin, are we really talking about admin, or
> just standard usage. Ritchie’s install guide and a book like Bourne’s Unix
> System (my personal favorite) book, or even one of the Kochan books might
> serve. I know Bourne and Kochan’s books are for later systems, but the bulk
> of them still apply. The Lion book is a great recommendation.
> >
> > Will
>
> Kernighan and Pike's The Unix Programming Environment is another classic...
>
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