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Still the =E2=80=9Coptical only=E2=80=9D drive was = problematic. By the time I actually received one (the joke was that the company was=20 going to be renamed from =E2=80=9CNext=E2=80=9D to =E2=80=9CEventually=E2= =80=9D). It did have a hard=20 drive in it. Oddly, the other thing it lacked was parity on the memory. A big=20 thing was made over the fact that the thing wasn=E2=80=99t exaxtly a cube i= n=20 shape. But it was Mach inside which meant it was fairy decent. It was one of=20 the several dozen things we ported our software to. For some reason,=20 the one I had came with a poorly digitized version of Janes All the=20 World=E2=80=99s Aircraft. It did have the top bar menus similar to the then MacOS environment and=20 what would become the Max OSX.