From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.8 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_INVALID,DKIM_SIGNED, HTML_MESSAGE,MAILING_LIST_MULTI autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: (qmail 1720 invoked from network); 24 Oct 2021 18:41:20 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (45.79.103.53) by inbox.vuxu.org with ESMTPUTF8; 24 Oct 2021 18:41:20 -0000 Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id 0DC399D0A7; Mon, 25 Oct 2021 04:41:19 +1000 (AEST) Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B36E89D08D; Mon, 25 Oct 2021 04:40:53 +1000 (AEST) Authentication-Results: minnie.tuhs.org; dkim=fail reason="signature verification failed" (2048-bit key; unprotected) header.d=ronnatalie.com header.i=@ronnatalie.com header.b="A+ZE9z8A"; dkim=fail reason="signature verification failed" (2048-bit key; unprotected) header.d=messagingengine.com header.i=@messagingengine.com header.b="FA0/hrb/"; dkim-atps=neutral Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id 3A4659D08D; Mon, 25 Oct 2021 04:40:50 +1000 (AEST) X-Greylist: delayed 525 seconds by postgrey-1.36 at minnie.tuhs.org; Mon, 25 Oct 2021 04:40:48 AEST Received: from out4-smtp.messagingengine.com (out4-smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.28]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A40AC9D08C for ; Mon, 25 Oct 2021 04:40:48 +1000 (AEST) Received: from compute6.internal (compute6.nyi.internal [10.202.2.46]) by mailout.nyi.internal (Postfix) with ESMTP id 17CB05C0626 for ; Sun, 24 Oct 2021 14:32:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mailfrontend2 ([10.202.2.163]) by compute6.internal (MEProxy); Sun, 24 Oct 2021 14:32:02 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=ronnatalie.com; h=from:to:subject:date:message-id:in-reply-to:references :reply-to:mime-version:content-type; s=fm1; bh=FXax3hvzOjqBSdHCl JMp+ww9z/gQ6VWPLobVffD5PYc=; b=A+ZE9z8AcE4kK4SlnR3XZUdHz+0XIw3ea 9ZEeGcUS+GoGPNoSqnH9/PoN6wkfQk8KYdb15BlaqmW6Djt58n33MMZF511kEsbQ VrpirMIM4Donvk8duZaaILrCUzA63266UANLhyTP8AATEIAWt9LcfGYmtNqrgQrg QqOnkctaUzlmn0va8+T4xzs5L8Xabw6IzaHYd/iegf0gNsnV6Rnvo8KBNJ9m/4HU hk6lyQq2cBYL75R/ZheymNzsN+dz/wnCHuEjGsj6NGMhKCuURkDJZVCnal0669he rzIDPQ+Sj4eLMUwiW1QckgllR3fP0FeCJcZbQXaVLuCpvD+r4KpPg== DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d= messagingengine.com; h=content-type:date:from:in-reply-to :message-id:mime-version:references:reply-to:subject:to :x-me-proxy:x-me-proxy:x-me-sender:x-me-sender:x-sasl-enc; s= fm1; bh=FXax3hvzOjqBSdHClJMp+ww9z/gQ6VWPLobVffD5PYc=; b=FA0/hrb/ v6y6IDaUNJ8e8xHk1t6hOCF15oZQGYOhd6v7GaZ4alXNRrpD7/1J7Ie9Mdm+iW5a O0LS2FWeyzmg8tvJOr1zffEYmmc/YOvLjtonKa+Jm4KAHwlS7LhyNSJXRnanItxO EWpz81IqDVnULa8HrLO2TwYEt69zJt4jszfkZBPcAzP/BfgTtminb3Y8Fgymogfz Ff8m6mJpa1/rukHaWONWgQEWx/sZ9Nk40BZSrykYPWfc08fY7nvHtWuORTGQrxLJ efuSHZFR/flkGQ5cLtiHFU56agS5MtLS7kQrL/uC3u6IEjMBEpdYqUaHrLh+hu7l LV/hPKoN+SjGpg== X-ME-Sender: X-ME-Received: X-ME-Proxy-Cause: gggruggvucftvghtrhhoucdtuddrgedvtddrvdeffedgleelucetufdoteggodetrfdotf fvucfrrhhofhhilhgvmecuhfgrshhtofgrihhlpdfqfgfvpdfurfetoffkrfgpnffqhgen uceurghilhhouhhtmecufedttdenucenucfjughrpefhvffufffkjghfrhgfgggtsegrtd erredtreejnecuhfhrohhmpedftfhonhcupfgrthgrlhhivgdfuceorhhonhesrhhonhhn rghtrghlihgvrdgtohhmqeenucggtffrrghtthgvrhhnpeeludetlefhkeehleejhffhje fgkeetffejledvhefhvdffgeejfeeihfeikeekffenucevlhhushhtvghrufhiiigvpedt necurfgrrhgrmhepmhgrihhlfhhrohhmpehrohhnsehrohhnnhgrthgrlhhivgdrtghomh X-ME-Proxy: Received: by mail.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA for ; Sun, 24 Oct 2021 14:32:01 -0400 (EDT) From: "Ron Natalie" To: tuhs@tuhs.org Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2021 18:32:00 +0000 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: <7wtuh6e6u6.fsf@junk.nocrew.org> User-Agent: eM_Client/8.2.1659.0 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------=_MBF69BEFDA-83B6-4CC0-A86A-2AD840904B80" Subject: Re: [TUHS] Unix NCP protocol stack for ARPANET X-BeenThere: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 Precedence: list List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Reply-To: Ron Natalie Errors-To: tuhs-bounces@minnie.tuhs.org Sender: "TUHS" --------=_MBF69BEFDA-83B6-4CC0-A86A-2AD840904B80 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable There were definitely as many PDP-11's (most running UNIX) as there were=20 DEC 10s in the glory days of the Arpanet. VAXes only rolled out toward=20 the end of the NCP era. However, the last NCP host table shows this statistic for DEC machines=20 on the NCP Arpanet VAX (UNIX): 58 VAX (VMS): 19 PDP11 (UNIX): 59 PDP11 (RSX): 6 PDP11 (MOS): 11 PDP11 (MINITS); 10 PDP10 (TOPS-20): 40 PDP10 (TOPS-10): 7 PDP10 (TENEX): 22 PDP10 (ITS): 4 PDP10 (WAITS): 3 I had all but forgotten about Local Host / Distant Host / Very Distant=20 Host 1822 protocols. I remember that BRL had a PDP-11/40 running ANTS=20 (ArpaNet Terminal Server out of University of Illinois). It got=20 replaced by an 11/34 running UNIX when the Arpanet went to long leaders=20 New Years 1981. --------=_MBF69BEFDA-83B6-4CC0-A86A-2AD840904B80 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable There were definitely as m= any PDP-11's (most running UNIX) as there were DEC 10s in the glory days of = the Arpanet.=C2=A0 =C2=A0VAXes only rolled out toward the end of the NCP e= ra.=C2=A0 =C2=A0=C2=A0

However, the last NCP host tabl= e shows this statistic for DEC machines on the NCP Arpanet

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VAX (UNIX):=C2=A0 58
VAX (VMS):=C2=A0 19

PDP11 (UNIX):=C2=A0 59
PDP11 (RSX): 6
PDP= 11 (MOS):=C2=A0 11
PDP11 (MINITS); 10

= PDP10 (TOPS-20):=C2=A0 40
PDP10 (TOPS-10): 7
PDP10 (TEN= EX):=C2=A0 =C2=A022
PDP10 (ITS):=C2=A0 4
PDP10 (WAITS): = 3

I had all but forgotten about Local Host / Di= stant Host / Very Distant Host 1822 protocols.=C2=A0 =C2=A0 I remember that = BRL had a PDP-11/40 running ANTS (ArpaNet Terminal Server out of Universit= y of Illinois).=C2=A0 =C2=A0It got replaced by an 11/34 running UNIX when t= he Arpanet went to long leaders New Years 1981.
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