From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.8 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_INVALID,DKIM_SIGNED, MAILING_LIST_MULTI,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: (qmail 23732 invoked from network); 24 Jan 2021 21:22:40 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (45.79.103.53) by inbox.vuxu.org with ESMTPUTF8; 24 Jan 2021 21:22:40 -0000 Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id 587E29C78F; Mon, 25 Jan 2021 07:22:39 +1000 (AEST) Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 52C779C78D; Mon, 25 Jan 2021 07:22:21 +1000 (AEST) Authentication-Results: minnie.tuhs.org; dkim=fail reason="signature verification failed" (1024-bit key; secure) header.d=mxes.net header.i=@mxes.net header.b="qVu/kcBz"; dkim-atps=neutral Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id 98F319C78D; Mon, 25 Jan 2021 07:22:20 +1000 (AEST) Received: from smtp-out-3.mxes.net (smtp-out-3.mxes.net [198.205.123.68]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id EF8D49C5FD for ; Mon, 25 Jan 2021 07:22:19 +1000 (AEST) Received: from Customer-MUA (mua.mxes.net [10.0.0.1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.mxes.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id AB2DF75A48 for ; Sun, 24 Jan 2021 16:22:18 -0500 (EST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=mxes.net; s=mta; t=1611523339; bh=5poP/Mluwa74ZYEhHR46maSD8B7l8ip8Q9m/Bx9ByPU=; h=From:To:Subject:Date:In-Reply-To:References:Reply-To:From; b=qVu/kcBznT/o3/pfC2leIiPfV3uctAxTqfOz8ALRtgdxrm94rBMFoFFrFGIzSm6r5 POiEYF5mgld34Nk4Lbyy6cQpITeLiYLB8rdN82MXOpoBTEABliG6U5YjoujeWfe6Ku GLzI2tm+xWs/Zz1jwhJOd406k+52hPxog/cDMM9g= From: "Ronald Natalie" To: "TUHS main list" Date: Sun, 24 Jan 2021 21:22:16 +0000 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <202101242114.10OLEYGk966708@darkstar.fourwinds.com> References: <20210124183653.GD21030@mcvoy.com> <202101242045.10OKjDvA964774@darkstar.fourwinds.com> <20210124211100.GI21030@mcvoy.com> <202101242114.10OLEYGk966708@darkstar.fourwinds.com> User-Agent: eM_Client/8.1.979.0 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Sent-To: Subject: [TUHS] Apollo (was NeWS) X-BeenThere: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 Precedence: list List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Reply-To: Ronald Natalie Errors-To: tuhs-bounces@minnie.tuhs.org Sender: "TUHS" >So I never liked Apollos much. What I was referring to was Apollo's claim >that their token-ring network performed better for large numbers of nodes. >And they were correct. However, they didn't consider the eventually >invention of switches that solved the problem. > > We worked with Apollo for a few years before they got absorbed into HP. =20 I had a DN10000 wthat we used to use. Amusingly, the window system=20 was some X variant with the Apollo's idea of a GUI wrapped around it. =20 When I fired up the Motif Window Manager I found that the three little=20 windows at the bottom of the screen got their own Motif border. The DN10000 came with a great set of documentation in five volumes to=20 describe all aspects of the hardware. I really needed volume 3 which=20 covered the graphics system. After much hunting around (even by some=20 senior Apollo engineers) everybody came to the conclusion that Volume 3=20 never got written. The other cute thing is that when you opened the=20 latchless gull wing doors on the thing it powered off. I had to tape=20 signs on the thing warning people not to open the thing casually. A few years after HP shutdown the whole Apollo domain thing, I was=20 visiting an FAA facility and they showed me this "brand new system they=20 just got in." It was essentially the system that eventually powered=20 things like flightaware.com. It was running on the new obsolete DN300. The other humerous (to me at least) was when we visited the factory,=20 they listed my bosses title as "Present" on the agenda. We're not sure=20 what Steve did, but he was always there.