From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.1 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_SIGNED,DKIM_VALID, DKIM_VALID_AU,MAILING_LIST_MULTI autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: (qmail 4644 invoked from network); 24 Jul 2022 20:33:35 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (50.116.15.146) by inbox.vuxu.org with ESMTPUTF8; 24 Jul 2022 20:33:35 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 38A1A4071A; Mon, 25 Jul 2022 06:33:29 +1000 (AEST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=tuhs.org; s=dkim; t=1658694809; h=from:from:reply-to:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date: message-id:message-id:to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version: content-type:content-type: content-transfer-encoding:content-transfer-encoding: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references:list-id:list-help: list-owner:list-unsubscribe:list-subscribe:list-post; bh=eN3X6A9BEa5ySC0S9kDTvPwlsVXwrKJ+kN9duvgbDK8=; b=V6PFmKMe1m+R9NkiLjHdDCJ8DFdv4UzRXw/BoChnF84ItLWBBuFN0yk7pQI5EJA40NA+0V oK0IImYEzDhIQ11rWrFB6F2no+MEo9C4gwe4ZH+IkFVc8Hgp+FXBNLcvrhZTeHFYxLFuLG TWbFhtzYS/RVt4EF/5OW2xlgyV//6Po= Received: from mail-40137.protonmail.ch (mail-40137.protonmail.ch [185.70.40.137]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 339CF40120 for ; Mon, 25 Jul 2022 06:33:19 +1000 (AEST) Date: Sun, 24 Jul 2022 20:33:05 +0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=protonmail.com; s=protonmail3; t=1658694796; x=1658953996; bh=eN3X6A9BEa5ySC0S9kDTvPwlsVXwrKJ+kN9duvgbDK8=; h=Date:To:From:Cc:Reply-To:Subject:Message-ID:In-Reply-To: References:Feedback-ID:From:To:Cc:Date:Subject:Reply-To: Feedback-ID:Message-ID; b=w/SOSrKL6Nb7B/ll5122ZkYVJN5TmI/fJz4Ji7Yp07xte8Egq/mnlxEclnGSJ8+z1 dWbffEm9Yane5kHTDEKchdEn3VpQUzSxAXTv73EpgJMifa96KpIKj8oJo5mydj+wmK arAaKN7lZewhzLA9CsDcdaltYPmWpLgeHLRkSCUKmfCWuH4eQrYn82oJzRnxcomGBH 2d7jN1FNv+uH6MLlglaLhWhIgwGVUxmnKM1iDjR+4eYGX+mSiPLA5nnxa3yqt2MHSy Q74QdQjhFnuHKzwVGb4vlxivI3QzcH8LPpnYV5czJ4RMkQa5N7bDF6UYVChyt7/+1H G2Nf63DDVFArA== To: Warner Losh Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: <1oF87S-4zW-00@marmaro.de> <8NgHeeJiYEBE0zhtd9RdKIeYWcAwtxsnAj7YhVIvLpz-yt0__LeFvVzNNGgSNTeDGnVQy-qxkoHWvmRi84ybYyNAiMRDJuVoAaEG96UAu4s=@protonmail.com> <83CADD1C2866986767CAF9251E6EF882.for-standards-violators@oclsc.org> Feedback-ID: 35591162:user:proton MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-ID-Hash: 7MJWWDVTWSQ2T2HVITPHP3R4AXIXATTN X-Message-ID-Hash: 7MJWWDVTWSQ2T2HVITPHP3R4AXIXATTN X-MailFrom: segaloco@protonmail.com X-Mailman-Rule-Misses: dmarc-mitigation; no-senders; approved; emergency; loop; banned-address; member-moderation; header-match-tuhs.tuhs.org-0; nonmember-moderation; administrivia; implicit-dest; max-recipients; max-size; news-moderation; no-subject; digests; suspicious-header CC: The Eunuchs Hysterical Society X-Mailman-Version: 3.3.6b1 Precedence: list Subject: [TUHS] Re: Line Numbers Before SysIII nl? BSD num? List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list Archived-At: List-Archive: List-Help: List-Owner: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: From: segaloco via TUHS Reply-To: segaloco X-Spam: Yes All this discussion is making me incredibly glad I posed the question, as i= t does indeed seem that before num and nl, line numbering was more of a "to= each their own" rather than there being a canonical best practice. By the way, what inspired the whole quandary in the first place was doing s= ome editing on a V6 UNIX system and realizing I hadn't the foggiest idea of= how to get the system to spit back line numbers to remind myself what addr= esses to supply to various ed commands. I suppose at the time using a cont= ext search was such an effective means of getting ed's cursor where you wan= ted it that having a means to number lines wasn't crucial to effectively wo= rking in ed, so long as one was good with their regex and searching. I'm realizing I might need to reach out to the maintainer of the nl manpage= in FreeBSD (and perhaps other OSs and distros) as the history section of t= he page posits that nl was first introduced in SVR2, when in reality the ea= rliest public offering was System III, although the trail goes cold at that= point, I can only assume it came from USG. - Matt G.