From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.3 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_INVALID,DKIM_SIGNED, MAILING_LIST_MULTI,NICE_REPLY_A,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: (qmail 24825 invoked from network); 13 Aug 2020 03:15:37 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (45.79.103.53) by inbox.vuxu.org with ESMTPUTF8; 13 Aug 2020 03:15:37 -0000 Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id 7D4489CAC8; Thu, 13 Aug 2020 13:15:34 +1000 (AEST) Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 96B8993D6A; Thu, 13 Aug 2020 13:14:57 +1000 (AEST) Authentication-Results: minnie.tuhs.org; dkim=fail reason="signature verification failed" (1024-bit key; secure) header.d=tnetconsulting.net header.i=@tnetconsulting.net header.b="S5ed5tKq"; dkim-atps=neutral Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id E5D3193D6A; Thu, 13 Aug 2020 13:14:54 +1000 (AEST) Received: from tncsrv06.tnetconsulting.net (tncsrv06.tnetconsulting.net [45.33.28.24]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3741593D06 for ; Thu, 13 Aug 2020 13:14:54 +1000 (AEST) Received: from Contact-TNet-Consulting-Abuse-for-assistance by tncsrv06.tnetconsulting.net (8.15.2/8.15.2/Debian-3) with ESMTPSA id 07D3EpKh011869 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Wed, 12 Aug 2020 22:14:53 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=tnetconsulting.net; s=2019; t=1597288493; bh=GieCvYKFDeldkdD2zhS3uEGdjcXXdsMtiEElqXQON+A=; h=Subject:To:References:From:Message-ID:Date:User-Agent: MIME-Version:In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Cc:Content-Disposition: Content-Language:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:Date:From: In-Reply-To:Message-ID:MIME-Version:References:Reply-To: Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Sender:Subject:To: User-Agent; b=S5ed5tKqwm6m8M+1RBTB21gMDgjRhz6F+OVMmzIQt6PwrCcIy3Z66Ayfej6OfVCcW jTJPyCErbordg5zgAfTSYojkGQeB7Lb8vq9eCPiE8DzcZgqCKwPfGOtLJzX7bVKxgd 58Bsz4I6brxqngb+yMPnVRRq8RJ66Gtm6dY7Oq/o= To: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org References: <8e7efd45-a84e-cf20-9d30-8222357596a3@tnetconsulting.net> <202007200847.06K8l8DF026646@freefriends.org> <20200720094648.GE15253@ancienthardware.org> <20200801013605.GG10778@mcvoy.com> <20200813014720.GP21027@mcvoy.com> Organization: TNet Consulting Message-ID: Date: Wed, 12 Aug 2020 21:15:01 -0600 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:68.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/68.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20200813014720.GP21027@mcvoy.com> Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha-256; boundary="------------ms060505080802050302000107" Subject: Re: [TUHS] A/UX [was Linux is on-topic] X-BeenThere: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 Precedence: list List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , From: Grant Taylor via TUHS Reply-To: Grant Taylor Errors-To: tuhs-bounces@minnie.tuhs.org Sender: "TUHS" This is a cryptographically signed message in MIME format. --------------ms060505080802050302000107 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 8/12/20 7:47 PM, Larry McVoy wrote: > The SMIT I had did*not* show you what files it was editing My recollection is that smit(ty) did /not/ show you the commands that=20 would be run /by/ /default/. That being said, there was a (P)F key you could press prior to=20 executing, one of the many (P)F keys smit(ty) used, that would show you=20 the command and all of it's arguments which would be run. I didn't like /using/ smit(ty) for much. But I did find it /useful/ for = learning things which I didn't know by using the menu a few times and=20 analyzing the command(s) that it would generate and run. I think it was a really advanced form of " command example"=20 searches that I see people doing on the regular. The BIG advantage is=20 that you used the menu interface to tweak parameters for your configurati= on. smit(ty) also had the added advantage that it could look up possible=20 values of things to put in the fields for you. I don't know any seasoned AIX admins that use smit(ty) for their day to=20 day, week to week, or even month to month activities. Though I think=20 many of them end up using smit(ty) once every year or two to look at a=20 particularly obtuse command. 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