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FreeBSD doesn't > > Hmm, interesting. I wonder what version of macOS you both are running? > My old trashcan Mac (soon to be replaced!) is running the > next-to-most-recent version and doesn't have the `>>> ` prompt. My > laptop, running the latest (Ventura?) does. > > I don't think I blame Apple for this, but rather something upstream of them. Per https://opensource.apple.com/releases/, they switched from macOS Monterey 12 with GNU bc 1.06 https://github.com/apple-oss-distributions/bc/tree/bc-21/bc to macOS 13 with GH bc 4.0.2 https://github.com/apple-oss-distributions/bc/tree/bc-26/bc I suspect this is similar to the replacement of bash with zsh for GPL avoidance. Interesting timeline though, https://git.yzena.com/gavin/bc/src/tag/4.0.2 was released in 2021-05-01, https://git.yzena.com/gavin/bc/src/tag/5.0.0 in 2021-08-08.