From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.8 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_INVALID,DKIM_SIGNED, MAILING_LIST_MULTI,T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: (qmail 11139 invoked from network); 9 Jan 2024 20:31:44 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (50.116.15.146) by inbox.vuxu.org with ESMTPUTF8; 9 Jan 2024 20:31:44 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5800343E7B; Wed, 10 Jan 2024 06:31:39 +1000 (AEST) Received: from relay8-d.mail.gandi.net (relay8-d.mail.gandi.net [IPv6:2001:4b98:dc4:8::228]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A8CC143DDA for ; Wed, 10 Jan 2024 06:31:33 +1000 (AEST) Received: by mail.gandi.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id EE85B1BF204 for ; Tue, 9 Jan 2024 20:31:30 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=bitsavers.org; s=gm1; t=1704832291; h=from:from:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date:message-id:message-id: to:to:cc:mime-version:mime-version:content-type:content-type: content-transfer-encoding:content-transfer-encoding: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references; bh=+9owC02LzPLhGZSX3qKlpt48VxdLEnb+Dz/bNlbgwbk=; b=bEn1gZhUVnDUQMAZ6aTjAaqX0ioPRpOPUbYJ5RBsLzoEJcWAuM68H9XBl94hJsxcnd6Th3 kii1xXCcZHmLYzIQrN/fWijIcPLprEDCXVYYCPujw30C8UuIfVz/QhtxraCVDBPHwE2/Of Lzj4JSQ7FkZFkx1tBrQWxYwXGE3ZDJl2mDeVD5+TZGoSuxlajAVyfrneYchysIFJckWyYw /3my63g+1tP/4mjJ1U+zks5ta4txSY4dFPcTdEDV8P+UZts9QJldzZA3xqwTsMcgzPhFj2 YsjfMtCbAsNPNZTaXEMMXHt8nKv2idzi4h7UCbgD6uDkLMdfSCMV5T/RQj2R9Q== To: tuhs@tuhs.org References: <20240108032428.co3ozmlneoop6sa2@illithid> <20240108051049.7643537404E9@freecalypso.org> <20240108071109.ykg42tw2gjeacs5f@illithid> <20240109093851.2A29737401E3@freecalypso.org> <66b2d0b2-87ab-8dd0-b275-5c54a1a9dfdb@bitsavers.org> From: Al Kossow Message-ID: Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2024 12:31:28 -0800 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.11; rv:78.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/78.14.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <66b2d0b2-87ab-8dd0-b275-5c54a1a9dfdb@bitsavers.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-GND-Sasl: aek@bitsavers.org Message-ID-Hash: WVE5QJ5YKEVMEH52XQYSD2B2BCFTH4VC X-Message-ID-Hash: WVE5QJ5YKEVMEH52XQYSD2B2BCFTH4VC X-MailFrom: aek@bitsavers.org X-Mailman-Rule-Misses: dmarc-mitigation; no-senders; approved; emergency; loop; banned-address; member-moderation; nonmember-moderation; administrivia; implicit-dest; max-recipients; max-size; news-moderation; no-subject; digests; suspicious-header X-Mailman-Version: 3.3.6b1 Precedence: list Subject: [TUHS] Re: Original print of V7 manual? / My own version of troff List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list Archived-At: List-Archive: List-Help: List-Owner: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: On 1/9/24 12:29 PM, Al Kossow wrote: > On 1/9/24 9:18 AM, segaloco via TUHS wrote: > >> On the subject of troff origins, in a world where troff didn't exist, and one purchases a C/A/T, what was the general approach to actually >> using the thing? > Short answer is you bought their proprietary typesetting turnkey systems > > They had to reverse-engineer the phototypesetter hardware to work with any homegrown software to drive it. > and that is a very deep rathole I've gone down before with Compugraphic typesetters