From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.8 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_SIGNED,DKIM_VALID, DKIM_VALID_AU,FREEMAIL_FORGED_FROMDOMAIN,FREEMAIL_FROM, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS,MAILING_LIST_MULTI,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (minnie.tuhs.org [45.79.103.53]) by inbox.vuxu.org (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTP id 44e2d932 for ; Tue, 12 Nov 2019 00:15:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id 0DB229BB3A; Tue, 12 Nov 2019 10:15:47 +1000 (AEST) Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A629A93D33; Tue, 12 Nov 2019 10:15:22 +1000 (AEST) Authentication-Results: minnie.tuhs.org; dkim=pass (2048-bit key; unprotected) header.d=gmail.com header.i=@gmail.com header.b="qTGv3hIy"; dkim-atps=neutral Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id 7D0B893D33; Tue, 12 Nov 2019 10:15:19 +1000 (AEST) Received: from mail-qk1-f179.google.com (mail-qk1-f179.google.com [209.85.222.179]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id ECF7493D2B for ; Tue, 12 Nov 2019 10:15:18 +1000 (AEST) Received: by mail-qk1-f179.google.com with SMTP id m16so12897694qki.11 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2019 16:15:18 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=subject:to:references:from:message-id:date:user-agent:mime-version :in-reply-to:content-transfer-encoding; bh=FvYrpRJu9bwi8+/rUbuPGDYBqPuqbl942Jy/QR6djWk=; b=qTGv3hIy2XbG1O6NrAioiAIR6CX+X8gQXztxzjPITD40Nbo1uWj5mHC6HcxDJ4DNjw H8MZGO9NHu1bQ8gqAb+E1iiHxV4XlXrqZAS6mXc5JNVN0Zbzc2oToS9RoHudpa//c+QZ OsXS//ZWNzyfzvdwJmsHkzQHNEChKjqerzids71yuwTbPt9Wrr3ii9JWpf2dyxBeinlm ldVNGbwybqTfwc85GjAhFh42RMt0xQFR45QnDDGcmC71p2vJFmpv1L2zw94tWESGOoj0 p8uyW1joiGXp1IRR7SYb9sp1WJ7mHmFlhBRhi6wrMS0H5DR8z6w9xW2JJLgp5O9W/uBr nV7A== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:subject:to:references:from:message-id:date :user-agent:mime-version:in-reply-to:content-transfer-encoding; bh=FvYrpRJu9bwi8+/rUbuPGDYBqPuqbl942Jy/QR6djWk=; b=jOyKKepxC//cco1PZY6mPGvxikvRq7vWVT8XBB3vEIQYMTGyzijYFWcH5oIVRAk+2T He6knhqr8c+I3rDyLRmzlAPdWzygmYsDdPKkm0pDVtyU/7MbZnIjDr4oTp/j5305YwA/ fX18HicpHoPR+9APObohlz/+XoYDMbskl6v5dR0ij4O4vCeFs/nPd5dTaspXPBHFlGCw PX33WsrI1SuEmek6xf0EoQMKcqOuHbWWA7Pir2eHQELe0gTOHL/l1Vmc4gpdxlTg70vj KyPL3CEESGiZkXUf3+pKXv/E80/VHYoNoptQ18p/E3Vqgxcf7GequOTgGZDn5YTg9WhV lViw== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAWos5j6iPo1cMR6c1ocAcaZ9T9aAPTY9BZkTkPXCCkEnuG60hDi bFZU/ry9M7wZFh4Ud3rsmWDO4Vkx/LI= X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqxn+6kK/1du6rjdp5SMGABvqLOq2sL/+RdbbRz0byGtXImFKYWuuej89dIlJvrKc3fEJkmB9g== X-Received: by 2002:ae9:f003:: with SMTP id l3mr13134345qkg.331.1573517717897; Mon, 11 Nov 2019 16:15:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from [10.0.1.24] (198.27.14-65.ip.mltn.standardbroadband.ca. [198.27.14.65]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id o2sm8591014qkf.68.2019.11.11.16.15.15 for (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Mon, 11 Nov 2019 16:15:17 -0800 (PST) To: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org References: <201911112110.xABLAQfW004396@skeeve.com> <20191111223129.GB23273@mit.edu> From: Nemo Nusquam Message-ID: Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2019 19:07:21 -0500 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; SunOS sun4u; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.5.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [TUHS] History of m6? X-BeenThere: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 Precedence: list List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: tuhs-bounces@minnie.tuhs.org Sender: "TUHS" On 11/11/19 17:58, Dave Horsfall wrote: > On Mon, 11 Nov 2019, Theodore Y. Ts'o wrote: > >> On Mon, Nov 11, 2019 at 11:10:26PM +0200, Arnold Robbins wrote: >>> I guess I'll also ask, how widespread was the use of macro processors >>> in high level languages? They were big for assembler, and PL/1 had >>> a macro language, but I don't know of any other contemporary languages >>> that had them. Were the general purpose macro processors used a lot? >>> E.g. with Fortran or Cobol or ... > > Late trivia: it's PL/I, not PL/1; rumour has it that IBM trademarked > them all up to PL/C i.e. PL/100... Found nothing on TESS. Maybe copyright but I am not familiar with copyright. > >> Well, there's Ratfor (Rational Fortran), which was implemented as a >> preprocessor in front of Fortran. I don't think it was used a lot, >> though.... > > I think I used it once, on the principle that I'll try anything once; > ugh... I worked for a company that wrote everything on ratfor. #6-) > > -- Dave