From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: tuhs-bounces@minnie.tuhs.org X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.1 (2015-04-28) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.9 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_SIGNED, MAILING_LIST_MULTI,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE,T_DKIM_INVALID autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.1 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (minnie.tuhs.org [45.79.103.53]) by inbox.vuxu.org (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTP id cd85b3c3 for ; Wed, 29 Aug 2018 17:34:58 +0000 (UTC) Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id 49C14A1F01; Thu, 30 Aug 2018 03:34:57 +1000 (AEST) Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E4178A1A64; Thu, 30 Aug 2018 03:34:48 +1000 (AEST) Authentication-Results: minnie.tuhs.org; dkim=fail reason="signature verification failed" (1024-bit key; secure) header.d=tnetconsulting.net header.i=@tnetconsulting.net header.b=IB91e6a4; dkim-atps=neutral Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id E3C23A1A64; Thu, 30 Aug 2018 03:34:46 +1000 (AEST) X-Greylist: delayed 555 seconds by postgrey-1.35 at minnie.tuhs.org; Thu, 30 Aug 2018 03:34:45 AEST Received: from tncsrv06.tnetconsulting.net (tncsrv06.tnetconsulting.net [45.33.28.24]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id CEB02A1A62 for ; Thu, 30 Aug 2018 03:34:45 +1000 (AEST) Received: from Contact-TNet-Consulting-Abuse-for-assistance by tncsrv06.tnetconsulting.net (8.15.2/8.15.2/Debian-3) with ESMTPSA id w7THPSdb005688 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Wed, 29 Aug 2018 12:25:29 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=tnetconsulting.net; s=2015; t=1535563529; bh=Dm5lzTHyDbyrkVrwkNj52RcJ5vMt9+6NlzsxxTC3Jaw=; h=From:Subject:To:Message-ID:Date:User-Agent:MIME-Version: Content-Type:Cc:Content-Disposition:Content-Language: Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:Date:From:In-Reply-To: Message-ID:MIME-Version:References:Reply-To:Resent-Date: Resent-From:Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Sender:Subject:To:User-Agent; b=IB91e6a4iXFPFAnv1cgLiRfXv/Pg3ljBGv+P4LaIqE2Muh3rvxadVQZn7T1c/G3Bi 6Vr2e5H7qwqOM6CqsfBO/6B3oQrR7OC4vK6VIUuRRxs1cvYDhO7wnuvoa245fQKCie 21H30ZUmQRP/XEkaBdMl93w7MpuAl5hkqHe0Km1M= Organization: TNet Consulting To: The Unix Heritage Society Message-ID: Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2018 11:25:28 -0600 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha-256; boundary="------------ms070801090406090909070309" Subject: [TUHS] =?utf-8?b?UmV0cm9OZXTigKY=?= X-BeenThere: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , From: Grant Taylor via TUHS Reply-To: Grant Taylor Errors-To: tuhs-bounces@minnie.tuhs.org Sender: "TUHS" This is a cryptographically signed message in MIME format. --------------ms070801090406090909070309 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 08/29/2018 07:46 AM, William Pechter wrote: > Also... If you run on the internet remember documented security exploit= s=20 > are decades old. I recommend no open ports except for ssh if it will=20 > build and maybe UUCP. I'm working on a Retro Computing Networking project with a few other=20 people and I think it would be a benefit for things like running 4.3 BSD = and other old OSs in a relatively safe environment. I'm bringing this up on TUSH for two reasons: 1) I think THUS members could benefit from RetroNet 2) I (we) would very much appreciate any suggestions or desires that=20 the THUS community would like to see in such a network. The idea behind RetroNet is two fold: 1) Create a network of interconnected VPNs between interested parties. 2) Provide ISP like services over said interconnections. Our hopes are for RetroNet to be able to provide a sandbox / small pool=20 / isolated network where members can interconnect with each other (if=20 they want to) similar to the Internet, but with much less exposure. (We = are planing on RetroNet not having direct Internet connectivity.) We=20 are also hoping and planing to be able to carry any Ethernet based=20 traffic between sites, routed or not. I (we) would be very interested in any input that THUS members might be=20 able to provide. 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