From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: toby@telegraphics.com.au (Toby Thain) Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2017 11:40:09 -0400 Subject: [TUHS] TeX/troff/typesetting markups - Re: SunOS 4 documentation In-Reply-To: <20170413134151.c2Hvf%steffen@sdaoden.eu> References: <1492034056.640146.943005264.77830DD6@webmail.messagingengine.com> <1492037730.652251.943052704.39811DAC@webmail.messagingengine.com> <20170412233158.GB14143@mcvoy.com> <08eb864b-784b-28e5-63b3-420cfbc5f684@telegraphics.com.au> <20170413022029.GM14143@mcvoy.com> <20170413134151.c2Hvf%steffen@sdaoden.eu> Message-ID: On 2017-04-13 9:41 AM, Steffen Nurpmeso wrote: > ... > i have no idea of what happened on the TeX side in the last, say, > about 15 years. TeXLive has always been too large for me, i have They have a small "basic" version with the essentials, a hundred megabytes or so. http://www.tug.org/mactex/morepackages.html > the KerTeX basics laying around since a few years, just in case > i ever find time to come back to TeX.) This can be a problem for > quick use cases that do not allow proper reviews and fine-tuning, > the latter sometimes down to the paragraph level, dependent on the > material. In TeX this can be tuned more easily with conservative > values and looking out for "overfull boxes" (iirc), if such occur > at all, then. > > My finding is that, with groff, i can produce papers (mostly > letters) of almost identical beauty with some fine-tuning, with > almost the identical number of "markup" (which is now also easily > typed with the american keyboard). And the fine-tuning i like, > because i adore the calligraphic as an art, as an act of devotion > of the calligrapher, to some higher spirit or the being as such, > and spending some seconds in some text is my simple Boche > equivalence to those fine spirits. Indeed, as a typographer, I believe details matter, no matter what the audience. I think Knuth feels the same way. :) --Toby > > --steffen >