From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.8 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_SIGNED,DKIM_VALID, DKIM_VALID_AU,FREEMAIL_FORGED_FROMDOMAIN,FREEMAIL_FROM, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS,MAILING_LIST_MULTI,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (minnie.tuhs.org [45.79.103.53]) by inbox.vuxu.org (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTP id 2ad1fbce for ; Thu, 1 Aug 2019 17:09:31 +0000 (UTC) Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id 525BF9BA3C; Fri, 2 Aug 2019 03:09:30 +1000 (AEST) Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F3CFC94903; Fri, 2 Aug 2019 03:09:12 +1000 (AEST) Authentication-Results: minnie.tuhs.org; dkim=pass (2048-bit key; unprotected) header.d=gmail.com header.i=@gmail.com header.b="PLDxqV+e"; dkim-atps=neutral Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id D325E94903; Fri, 2 Aug 2019 03:09:10 +1000 (AEST) Received: from mail-io1-f54.google.com (mail-io1-f54.google.com [209.85.166.54]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7B831948EB for ; Fri, 2 Aug 2019 03:09:10 +1000 (AEST) Received: by mail-io1-f54.google.com with SMTP id i10so32653266iol.13 for ; Thu, 01 Aug 2019 10:09:10 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=subject:to:references:from:message-id:date:user-agent:mime-version :in-reply-to:content-transfer-encoding; bh=meLT9awKcqXmhJwd+1nV8GyJ2+DIl/rfyyVZFEufshQ=; b=PLDxqV+eNUU7hw9ZYJNDdnWmqVyiGfh4WEvLYNIf3LJWT53bWphoiOmJmyzaYiGRfz dO+e26x7Y45eo6d8zx2JgQjx/LXh5EmiCWcP04E+igKulkYW3hKFBXWkw9+uWFwhbYSW 3BbrQ3gHTGstIx/H5M46oCbV9tcz7Ex1oI13UhKD54IufpTPyLn/tDD/W56pwBCkpwem QSu6J5v2nm7jyHFlxDco232r7hCRYSERFYSaQ+DwSgmhBrsOjaiSbVNXHiNzslgU5PjO SoPDreQzDswFmp5kuXI5BiZsJT8/pg6rvzlWNA31oDkf5XeqJCi+I32Qt0LyMt06HUyV E94g== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:subject:to:references:from:message-id:date :user-agent:mime-version:in-reply-to:content-transfer-encoding; bh=meLT9awKcqXmhJwd+1nV8GyJ2+DIl/rfyyVZFEufshQ=; b=PKW/x/qC5ilFwAN6yV2/wJgS3VnBBH0V90OEbrpjdcoe9vNt8XnMBEiOIvncZML5Ia 9r/wUH2ZtsiINcYarBgC0g1FRFLzO0aXvb+iXx41WDmzO0/779SUfQDaP2dQHWtnvvDQ lnL2zmtpT3+zByIFOGs/A12NDbeJBLkVHMD5xXjXxxF0gF8bkD55+GF26c7Um18XRkNg xRk69yk5Z4eOht8rCHjS9tAq97iD8J5mO9q+ZTtQ2kTxphOKl2tXE+6OlAARQzuXajOE kRVdnvDHUtNZYLhq6hjcAUxx8Fax9b01T2y/xeCjbrnh0IQakAxYsJsZFvJPJiIBi76D 7hTA== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAVCJy17JhYZTmz0F9mpgqoEOckvS/C4oIbnsdqTndLrW4JbcpW9 0lTVeJe9IUSedbAtWOp4iCUuDBCWEwo= X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqz3pZ3Lu6MChhhLle3Io1B4vMG1o9JMrLcYgIYbL+WIYtSqTRuh3Uhts6kUG9s2EBvfWAzPNw== X-Received: by 2002:a02:230a:: with SMTP id u10mr51549533jau.117.1564679349786; Thu, 01 Aug 2019 10:09:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [10.0.1.24] (198.27.14-65.ip.mltn.standardbroadband.ca. [198.27.14.65]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id 8sm58517762ion.26.2019.08.01.10.09.08 for (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Thu, 01 Aug 2019 10:09:09 -0700 (PDT) To: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org References: <201908011235.x71CZP2B035023@tahoe.cs.Dartmouth.EDU> From: Nemo Nusquam Message-ID: Date: Thu, 1 Aug 2019 13:01:46 -0400 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; SunOS sun4u; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.5.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <201908011235.x71CZP2B035023@tahoe.cs.Dartmouth.EDU> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [TUHS] Who's behind the UNIX filesystem permission X-BeenThere: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 Precedence: list List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: tuhs-bounces@minnie.tuhs.org Sender: "TUHS" On 08/01/19 08:35, Doug McIlroy wrote (in part): > Yet clean as the idea of groups > was, it has been used only sporadically (in my experience). Interesting... we used groups extensively (qa, staging, dev, research, release, ...) but never ACLs. N.