From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.2 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_SIGNED,DKIM_VALID, DKIM_VALID_AU,DKIM_VALID_EF,MAILING_LIST_MULTI,T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (minnie.tuhs.org [IPv6:2600:3c01:e000:146::1]) by inbox.vuxu.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E2C0626D60 for ; Mon, 18 Mar 2024 21:17:50 +0100 (CET) Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1403E426EA; Tue, 19 Mar 2024 06:17:46 +1000 (AEST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=tuhs.org; s=dkim; t=1710793066; h=from:from:reply-to:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date: message-id:message-id:to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version: content-type:content-type: content-transfer-encoding:content-transfer-encoding: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references:list-id:list-help: list-owner:list-unsubscribe:list-subscribe:list-post; bh=Zqxqvh9I5Pn8Nyb8LDlwH240L34TmpamnjmYzmcWznc=; b=zN8ysLSyu5+NNJnY0Xuz6xUmtzW00NR7FMsON4ISS4FsMIbu00jgoTyY2bLYWIUjDOTEIQ GZ6JR6e5w+pgjdJ6EZ5k9KiJ4E9RWqnVSdAIPSj6LuBqx+EUpbZyo6SPOWb+5GhPKqyyMK /znleX1NAAqCg1jnGyQsW8yj38sMZNY= Received: from mail-4318.protonmail.ch (mail-4318.protonmail.ch [185.70.43.18]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 826DD426EA for ; Tue, 19 Mar 2024 06:17:38 +1000 (AEST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=protonmail.com; s=protonmail3; t=1710793056; x=1711052256; bh=Zqxqvh9I5Pn8Nyb8LDlwH240L34TmpamnjmYzmcWznc=; h=Date:To:From:Cc:Subject:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:References: Feedback-ID:From:To:Cc:Date:Subject:Reply-To:Feedback-ID: Message-ID:BIMI-Selector; b=Whxq8RITjm6iBg3yeSlSfazLyaIrCrvupLYttsfKHxXM7p9T/tlkYYzSprXmTeRtc cad84VNw2z0iS8DqcEkc6VhAjzac1Mh6W9X4hY9zzv0BRNAKu6FGTaCwHty1IrL43Q ZqY5B4ASNyS1htPiNtBy1+oFTMoeSlvjj6HCYMcCOIUGk1elEQwQYn1HSKoginGhvY 0ZsVWpdpVIrAUKhbhijKbaPz1LtgPyQGmECegu+21Q36GfppkeBo7jqZpaBCGOOJJo Jiu/YGZQRnB73TIK/AUimbYRR3JIkT3r0ERtLOA+fV3Obbu0yxLHe8a94grZ1xsZag G2MNd117/QcMw== Date: Mon, 18 Mar 2024 20:17:28 +0000 To: Dave Horsfall Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Feedback-ID: 35591162:user:proton MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-ID-Hash: 7XPO67TDHXRSK6A3IOUB2SR55SMGUFO3 X-Message-ID-Hash: 7XPO67TDHXRSK6A3IOUB2SR55SMGUFO3 X-MailFrom: segaloco@protonmail.com X-Mailman-Rule-Misses: dmarc-mitigation; no-senders; approved; emergency; loop; banned-address; member-moderation; nonmember-moderation; administrivia; implicit-dest; max-recipients; max-size; news-moderation; no-subject; digests; suspicious-header CC: The Eunuchs Hysterical Society X-Mailman-Version: 3.3.6b1 Precedence: list Subject: [TUHS] Re: Of /dev/tty8 List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list Archived-At: List-Archive: List-Help: List-Owner: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: From: segaloco via TUHS Reply-To: segaloco On Monday, March 18th, 2024 at 12:36 PM, Dave Horsfall = wrote: > On Mon, 18 Mar 2024, Ron Natalie wrote: >=20 > > /dev/tty existed in Version 6 for sure. It wasn't the console but > > rather a magic device that mapped to the processes "controlling > > terminal." >=20 >=20 > I was referring to /dev/tty8, not /dev/tty... >=20 > -- Dave ttys(V) in the Sixth Edition indicates the first digit of an /etc/ttys entr= y indicates a terminal line is active on init and the second indicates the = final character of the /dev/ttyx entry[1]. Looking at both the Fifth and S= ixth Edition /etc/ttys in the archive[2][3], both only have a 1 in the firs= t column of entry 8, corresponding with /dev/tty8. >From the setup document distributed with the Sixth Edition[4]: "The same goes for the character devices. Here the names are arbitrary except that devices meant to be used for teletype access should be named /dev/ttyX, where X is any character. The files tty8 (console), mem, kmem, null are already correctly configured." >From all of this it appears that by convention, tty8 was indeed the default= console /dev entry, although this could be changed by editing the conf and= ttys entries followed by regeneration of the system. This would change in= the Seventh Edition with the rearrangement of the ttys file to indicate lo= nger /dev entry names and the establishment of a specific /dev/console entr= y. - Matt G. [1] - https://www.tuhs.org/cgi-bin/utree.pl?file=3DV6/usr/man/man5/ttys.5 [2] - https://www.tuhs.org/cgi-bin/utree.pl?file=3DV5/etc/ttys [3] - https://www.tuhs.org/cgi-bin/utree.pl?file=3DV6/etc/ttys [4] - https://www.tuhs.org/cgi-bin/utree.pl?file=3DV6/usr/doc/start/start