From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.1 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_SIGNED,DKIM_VALID, DKIM_VALID_AU,MAILING_LIST_MULTI autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: (qmail 15885 invoked from network); 10 Feb 2023 04:58:29 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (50.116.15.146) by inbox.vuxu.org with ESMTPUTF8; 10 Feb 2023 04:58:29 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF438411D3; Fri, 10 Feb 2023 14:58:24 +1000 (AEST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=tuhs.org; s=dkim; t=1676005105; h=from:from:reply-to:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date: message-id:message-id:to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version: content-type:content-type: content-transfer-encoding:content-transfer-encoding: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references:list-id:list-help: list-owner:list-unsubscribe:list-subscribe:list-post; bh=cuwpM0sb43k/6otu3NZ1imZw56BKP0ukZrfkswVoGJQ=; b=vH8Ptd3bT4jYqJvWi4Zw/OR8LK60q2I8jyefnX13fbUWY2jQrRbXNAfkA6HI9v8xwMGf9+ DmDnyenKemCqkoEfHQJmKLMan/h9RaEiCyd0GCeaHLOzAGCv0hjesLlomtIlRVShDywx2m tuqcfPB7loewny5InUsj01qfZ2yINeY= Received: from mail-40138.protonmail.ch (mail-40138.protonmail.ch [185.70.40.138]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 60573411CE for ; Fri, 10 Feb 2023 14:58:17 +1000 (AEST) Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2023 04:58:07 +0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=protonmail.com; s=protonmail3; t=1676005094; x=1676264294; bh=cuwpM0sb43k/6otu3NZ1imZw56BKP0ukZrfkswVoGJQ=; h=Date:To:From:Cc:Subject:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:References: Feedback-ID:From:To:Cc:Date:Subject:Reply-To:Feedback-ID: Message-ID:BIMI-Selector; b=JjUbPUxjAesP+6aqZ3QoCoX+Z9fj9yxrYBZNpDgdCVcuoZiEcbSUGzAQLfJOTI8OE Q0SX+1ly2LDuQc2xZFwC3a2aiJPxVdnRNiU+aPnUwEO6iaY7NL2fjIuy8p4zRdQ+Mr euj1Lz6NUPyglnlY/kDlg+iezGA+y2+AIPwhIxO5QQC5X1u3DBRKkO0uAbuLqsZGWk J9pI3WIQOlke11jHMs/JlDjni28V8d+UNjllU2R+7T2O9l/EinQpWHsKiPhzXVKLr9 SeQRoCjL0yZAi/SwH/M3qoIBPPvSlEo64eywR1Ys+t57in4uBciluHgDUdSFF9SPzD kC65Xuh1BIEVA== To: George Michaelson Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: <2XyFQMdNqMtF1Mr0uR7953_hlXtegijahATtyjqGWWCLPbLmDGDJMVneA7OOB9TeY1ww6N5b7cJy8u4ceemZqdumwM4jrlzmd0KDJQuVMXA=@protonmail.com> Feedback-ID: 35591162:user:proton MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-ID-Hash: 44W5IJ3P6I6HWVFBMW6CDTTO2US7LTNU X-Message-ID-Hash: 44W5IJ3P6I6HWVFBMW6CDTTO2US7LTNU X-MailFrom: segaloco@protonmail.com X-Mailman-Rule-Misses: dmarc-mitigation; no-senders; approved; emergency; loop; banned-address; member-moderation; header-match-tuhs.tuhs.org-0; nonmember-moderation; administrivia; implicit-dest; max-recipients; max-size; news-moderation; no-subject; digests; suspicious-header CC: tuhs@tuhs.org X-Mailman-Version: 3.3.6b1 Precedence: list Subject: [TUHS] Re: UNIX/TS 4.x Findings List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list Archived-At: List-Archive: List-Help: List-Owner: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: From: segaloco via TUHS Reply-To: segaloco That's all the more reason to be precise, with all the uncertainty there is= at least the fact that I can say this is what the documentarian in charge = of the manual had approved to live in /usr/man/u_man on the particular box = they had hooked up to the typesetter when they cut the plates that eventual= ly printed the book I hold. No amount of printed material will ever captur= e reality, but it does give a darn good window into it in a more precise wa= y. On the note of precision, to add fuel to the USG fire, there is also the US= G Program Generic line, which has numbers distinct from this stuff too. So= many branches... - Matt G. ------- Original Message ------- On Thursday, February 9th, 2023 at 8:48 PM, George Michaelson wrote: > I hesitate to throw this into the mix, but I would observe in those > days, people were a bit less formal about release versions and I have > a suspicion (but only a suspicion) that from time to time what shipped > on a 1200bpi tape was not some canonical 'this is the release as of 3 > months ago' but more 'this is a sh scripted product of the checked out > state as I understood it, on the box I had available to me, to cut a > tape. >=20 > The tape had to have boot blocks up front. You got told to do mt fsf > stuff. So.. I accept some of the tape structure was a bit more > formally policed: giving people the wrong architecture and bootblocks > would be bad. >=20 > But when it comes to what was unpacked for runtime? I think it wasn't > quite as 'reproducible build' formal as it is now, for some people. >=20 > The version numbers were not mutable. What was stamped with them? > Perhaps it was. >=20 > G